Hi there 2box users!
I'm a proud owner of a 2box kit myself but I keep running into the same problem, I continuously make holes in my bassdrum head (standard 2 box mesh pad). The bassdrum head only lasts 2 weeks (I play an hour a day). I've tried different stuff like relocating my pedal so that it doesn't hit the center and replacing the beater, but it doesn't solve the problem. I use an Iron Cobra powerglide single pedal with the felt beater and tbh I don't use that much force. I also don't play heavy metal or anything, just rock/punk/funk.
I'm hoping for some good advice :)
mesh head and felt beater, is not good combination...but you should know that better hehe
I agree with not using a felt beater, it will wear through the head really quickly. If you really need to use a felt one then put a bass drum patch over the area to stop the wear.
Cheers
Familiar… lol
You are Not going believe it, I had a long post about same problem at my snare…
You can check the post at the general section look for the post " what going on with my snare machhead "
For me â€" I had a problem with the foam â€" but I had a lot of headache till we found the cause
Anyway I think that it will be better to have an original beater (for the MK2 model) â€" it's like a soft tennis ball
I could try using a rubber head again, but I had a feeling it landed much harder on the mesh head (causing more damage). Maybe it'll do the trick. If not, the mesh heads aren't that expensive ;-)
Try the mini tennis ball and the 628 meshheads for 2Box ... they seem to be very good according to other posts on this forum.
snare holes have nothing to do with kick holes. the felt doesnt behave well with the mesh. so you should use a falam.now avoid remo as they are too noisy. basically all of them are a bit noisy but are the loudest. i am using 2ply roland mesh with falam and on top of it i have a clothe my mother made so that i eliminate bit of the bouncing and noise and is awesome
Quote from: Murgen on January 10, 2013, 05:13:13 PM
Try the mini tennis ball and the 628 meshheads for 2Box ... they seem to be very good according to other posts on this forum.
Exactly, this is what I'm using, with a normal ordinary drumbeater. Still going strong. With the lighter new mkII bassdrum I prefer a normal drumbeater instead of the tennisbal. The 628 quite loosened in combination with the Pearl beater is not to bouncy in my opinion. Yes and I to slammed through the orginal head after one month of playing.
I ordered a 2BOX - Mesh Head 14 inch from 628 today. Will start experimenting with tennis-ball and normal beaters. It is fun to pimp the 2box.
The head came in and I had some time so I put it on the bass pad and it rocks. Tried a normal beater first *(felt and plastic head) and after an hour or so I put the tennis-ball back and what do you think? Perfect!
The 628 mesh is double layered. To my amazement replacing the original head by this one improved the bass volume as well. I cannot say if this is because of the double layer or a better installation then the factory head but the sound quality improved. The Cube Beech bass was a bit soft and fluffy and now it speaks out in the spectrum of sounds.
I'm happy! :rock:
Quote from: Murgen on February 06, 2013, 08:09:47 PM
The head came in and I had some time so I put it on the bass pad and it rocks. Tried a normal beater first *(felt and plastic head) and after an hour or so I put the tennis-ball back and what do you think? Perfect!
The 628 mesh is double layered. To my amazement replacing the original head by this one improved the bass volume as well. I cannot say if this is because of the double layer or a better installation then the factory head but the sound quality improved. The Cube Beech bass was a bit soft and fluffy and now it speaks out in the spectrum of sounds.
I'm happy! :rock:
Murgen do you have a photo of it? I'am thinking to buy those 628 mesh heads for my 2 bassdrums.
Quote from: roel on February 09, 2013, 08:11:37 AM
Murgen do you have a photo of it? I'am thinking to buy those 628 mesh heads for my 2 bassdrums.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8384/8457796103_03fbfbb017.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/84073495@N04/8457796103/)
IMG_0732 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/84073495@N04/8457796103/) by murgenetemplar (http://www.flickr.com/people/84073495@N04/), 628 bassdrum head
The white spot is caused by me playing with a felt beater for 30 minutes.
For the past 9-10 years I have been using a Kick patch on every mesh head kick I have owned. I have never put a hole in one of my kicks. The first mesh kick I owned I started to see a little wear. After reading forums waaaay back then I decided by those recommendations that a kick patch is a must. My feeling is no matter what beater you plan to use add a kick patch. They are inexpensive compared to a new mesh head. I've even seen stock rubber kick pads with holes in them at Guitar Center.
There are plenty of choices out there. The one I have been using for almost 10 years is this one:
http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-EVA-EQPBX-LIST
It makes no noise and you can't feel any dif between using the patch or striking the head without it, but it protects the mesh. There are single or double pedal styles.
i also use the same patch jman, but it does make noise. and an ugly one as well. arethere different evans patches?when my rubber beater hits the patch thereis an awful plastic-like sound. i hate it. thank god i also use my moms cloth on the mesh head so the sound isnt that annoying...
Quote from: BURNIN AMBITION on February 09, 2013, 06:18:34 PM
i also use the same patch jman, but it does make noise. and an ugly one as well. arethere different evans patches?when my rubber beater hits the patch thereis an awful plastic-like sound. i hate it. thank god i also use my moms cloth on the mesh head so the sound isnt that annoying...
I guess this is one of those cases where people's perception of noise or sound can be totally different! Like I say I've been using the same patch for close to 10 years and it has never been bothersome or noisy to me in the least. In this video at 4 min. 4 seconds I demo the acoustic noise of the 22" mesh kick with that patch...... I should have said the noise would never bother anybody, except BURNIN AMBITION ;D I doubt you will find anything quieter than your mom's custom cloth cover though....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCAAHByhGnI
Quote from: Jman on February 09, 2013, 07:24:13 PM
I guess this is one of those cases where people's perception of noise or sound can be totally different! Like I say I've been using the same patch for close to 10 years and it has never been bothersome or noisy to me in the least. In this video at 4 min. 4 seconds I demo the acoustic noise of the 22" mesh kick with that patch...... I should have said the noise would never bother anybody, except BURNIN AMBITION ;D I doubt you will find anything quieter than your mom's custom cloth cover though....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCAAHByhGnI
yeah i know i am picky but in you video the kick drum with the patch sounds different than mine. perhaps it has to do with the combination of the mesh head i use along with the patch (roland mesh). perhaps it has to do with the amount of tightness of thehead (mine is pretty loose id say), i dunno. mine is noiseir than what i hear from you. anyway, i also think that with the mesh we need a patch no matter what. i will invetsigate more patches in the future. i only know that the remo patch is crap as it is total plastic. wil try different patches as well. cheers mate
Try Evans.
.....doh! I just went back and read your post on the previous page. Always been happy with these myself.
Quote from: BURNIN AMBITION on February 09, 2013, 08:41:03 PM
yeah i know i am picky but in you video the kick drum with the patch sounds different than mine. perhaps it has to do with the combination of the mesh head i use along with the patch (roland mesh). perhaps it has to do with the amount of tightness of thehead (mine is pretty loose id say), i dunno. mine is noiseir than what i hear from you. anyway, i also think that with the mesh we need a patch no matter what. i will invetsigate more patches in the future. i only know that the remo patch is crap as it is total plastic. wil try different patches as well. cheers mate
I don't know whether this is the case, but occasionally some Roland dual ply heads are nosier. It is kind of luck of the ..... or rather unluck of the draw. Occasionally you will get one where there is more buzz or noise between the 2 plies. That has been discussed over the years.... dunno though whether that is the case with yours. Not to knock Roland mesh heads, those are definitely the heads I prefer. They trigger excellent and the durability is incredible. Many people are using the same Roland mesh heads for 10 years or more!
time will tell. ill get 2 different patches in march and check em and will post the results.
anyway, what i wanted to say is that in MY case, having a patch is copletely different than not having the patch, noisewise. that is all. it is not that big of a problem for me since i use the cloth i have said on numerous occasions. but i just said it.
(btw the cloth starts to dissolve where the beter contacts it. i have destroyed one opf the 2 sides. perhaps i should stop practising 6-8 hours per day lol
Quote from: BURNIN AMBITION on February 09, 2013, 10:43:02 PM
time will tell. ill get 2 different patches in march and check em and will post the results.
anyway, what i wanted to say is that in MY case, having a patch is copletely different than not having the patch, noisewise. that is all. it is not that big of a problem for me since i use the cloth i have said on numerous occasions. but i just said it.
(btw the cloth starts to dissolve where the beter contacts it. i have destroyed one opf the 2 sides. perhaps i should stop practising 6-8 hours per day lol
Your Evans patch is black one, not the plastic one right? They have a plastic patch too, black is a nylon type cloth.
http://www.amazon.com/Evans-Double-Pedal-Patch-Plastic/dp/B0002E1IOG
Not trying to question you or bug you, but it just seems strange that if it isn't the plastic one it would cause you noise, because the Nylon patch is like a nylon cloth, not much different from mesh.
precisely what I was thinking.
i have the black one jerry, but really guys, dont pay attention to me perhaps i am wayyyyy too picky noise wise!!! cheers
Quote from: Murgen on February 09, 2013, 03:54:03 PM
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8384/8457796103_03fbfbb017.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/84073495@N04/8457796103/)
IMG_0732 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/84073495@N04/8457796103/) by murgenetemplar (http://www.flickr.com/people/84073495@N04/), 628 bassdrum head
The white spot is caused by me playing with a felt beater for 30 minutes.
How does it play? better than the single mesh from 2box?
Quote from: roel on February 13, 2013, 07:28:29 AM
How does it play? better than the single mesh from 2box?
O yeah, less bouncy bouncy!
Quote from: Murgen on February 06, 2013, 08:09:47 PM
I'm happy! :rock:
Hey Murgen,
where did you purchase the 682 meshhead?
cheers,
Lutz
Quote from: tower of p on February 13, 2013, 10:12:25 PM
Hey Murgen,
where did you purchase the 682 meshhead?
cheers,
Lutz
Online via http://www.682drums.com/
Quote from: Murgen on February 14, 2013, 05:11:07 PM
Online via http://www.682drums.com/
Alright, thanks. I just thought you might have found some European dealer who sells them...
Since the delivery costs are almost as much as the head itself.
Anyway, I'll give it a try.
:-)
682 is European - they're in the Netherlands.
Quote from: digitalDrummer on February 17, 2013, 09:06:10 PM
682 is European - they're in the Netherlands.
Yes finally have made the mk2 conversion, with new 628 meshheads.
These meshheads are the best feeling meshheads on the market.
Quote from: roel on March 31, 2013, 08:02:57 AM
Yes finally have made the mk2 conversion, with new 628 meshheads.
These meshheads are the best feeling meshheads on the market.
Told you so :P
Quote from: digitalDrummer on February 17, 2013, 09:06:10 PM
682 is European - they're in the Netherlands.
doh. I assumed they were located in the US because they show prices in $. my bad... ::)
There was a time when we all wanted US dollars!