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Title: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on November 23, 2012, 10:52:32 PM
(https://www.lustark.com/images/SDSE.png) (https://lustark.com/sdse)

SDSE (https://lustark.com/sdse) is a software meant for 2Box users and e-drummers.

(https://www.lustark.com/images/SDSE_s.jpg) (https://lustark.com/sdse)
SDSE stands for Simple Drum Sounds Exporter or Super Drumkits from Sweden.


Background
I got the 2Box DrumIt Five module for the realism of the sounds and the fact that the module is fully open to receive new sounds. Of course the module can also be used to trigger VST sounds but personally the ease of setup and ease of use of the DrumIt Five as a standalone module is something I really enjoy. After many visits to this forum I started following the example set by Jman and others and started adding new .dsnd files. Importing sounds to the DrumIt Five was made easier thanks to the great program that is DSoundTool but all the small steps required to export sounds from a VST sound library (drag and dropping a MIDI item, learning the note for each instrument/articulation, renaming the .dnsd) can amount to a lot of time.

Wouldn't it be great if we had an export feature in Superior Drummer 2 that would convert a preset to a set of .dsnd files with matching .dkit? The goal of SDSE is to perform the same task.
I started working on SDSE this summer as a project for my own use but when it became a one-click solution I thought I would polish it and add features in hope that it makes it easier for fellow drummers to export their kits.

Many thanks to Jman for his feedback and extensive testing!


Purpose
Automatically export drum instruments or whole kits from a drum instrument VST to .wav and optionally to .dsnd and .dkit for the DrumIt Five module.
The process is fully automated for supported VSTs and basic functionality should work with other VSTs as long as they are set to use the same MIDI map.
It can also be used without REAPER or a VST to quickly build Hats from .wav sounds using DSoundTool.


Requirements
Various features require one or several of the following programs:

Supported VST instruments


Features
Other Features
Evaluation version features



Supported Sound Libraries

Addictive Drums 2, Addictive Drums
ADpak
  • Addictive Drums (Studio Pop, Rock, Prog)
  • Black Velvet
  • Fairfax Vol. 1
  • Fairfax Vol. 2
  • Funk
  • Indie
  • Metal
  • Modern Jazz Brushes
  • Modern Jazz Sticks
  • Modern Soul and R&B
  • Reel Machines
  • Retro (Retroplex, Blue Oyster, Black Oyster)
  • Session Percussion
  • United Heavy
  • United Pop
  • Vintage Dry
Kitpiece
  • DW Collector's Bass Drum
  • DW Solid Piccolo Snare
  • DW Woofer
  • DW Premier Gen-X Bass Drum
  • Sonor Designer Snare
  • Vistalite Bass Drum

BFD3, BFD2 and BFD Eco
Expansion Packs
  • BFD3
  • BFD2, London Sessions, BFD Eco
  • 8 Bit Kit
  • Andy Johns Classic Drums
  • Big Orchestral Marching Band (Marching Drums, Orchestral)
  • Cocktail
  • Decatom
  • Deluxe Collection
  • DrumDrops BFD Slingerland
  • DrumDrops BFD Rogers Big R Dub Kit
  • Dunnett Titanium
  • Eldorado
  • EpiK DrumS Bill Cobham
  • EpiK DrumS Bob Siebenberg
  • EpiK DrumS Rod Morgenstein
  • EpiK DrumS Sixties DownBeat
  • EpiK DrumS Seventies EJ
  • EpiK DrumS Terry Bozzio
  • EpiK DrumS Woody Woodmansey
  • Evil Drums
  • Heavy
  • Horsepower
  • Imperial Drums
  • Japanese Taiko Percussion
  • Jazz & Funk
  • JEX XDrum
  • Jim Scott Rock Drums Vol. 1 & 2
  • Metal Snares
  • Modern Drummer Snare Drum Selects
  • Neil Peart Kit
  • Nick Mason Kit
  • Oblivion
  • Percussion
  • Rock Legends Gretsch Charlie Watts
  • Sabian Digital Vault
  • Signature Snares Vol. 1
  • Signature Snares Vol. 2
  • Sleishman Drums
  • Sleishman Snares
  • Sonic Reality Vinny Appice
  • Sonic Reality Hugh Padgham Big Fill Kit
  • Sonica Kabuki and Noh Percussion
  • Sphere
  • Stanton Moore Bosphorus Cymbals
  • Swan Percussion
  • The Black Album Drums
  • Virtually Erskine (Peter Erskine)
  • XFL
  • Yamaha Jazz Maple
  • Yamaha Maple Custom Absolute
  • Yamaha Oak Custom
  • Zildjian Digital Vault (Gen16 Z-Pack1, S-Pack1, S-Pack2)

Steven Slate Drums 5, Steven Slate Drums 4
  • Blackbird
  • Chris Lord-Alge
  • Classic Signature
  • Classic Vol. 1
  • Classic Vol. 2
  • David Bendeth
  • Deluxe
  • Deluxe 2
  • Electronic
  • Terry Date

Superior Drummer, EZdrummer
Superior Drummer 3, Superior Drummer 2 SDX
  • Avatar
  • Custom & Vintage
  • Evil Drums
  • Metal Foundry
  • Metal Machinery
  • Music City
  • New York Vol. 2
  • New York Vol. 3
  • Progressive Foundry
  • Rock Foundry
  • Rock Warehouse
  • Roots Sticks
  • Roots Brushes, Rods & Mallets
  • Superior Drummer 3 Core
EZdrummer 2, EZdrummer, Superior Drummer 3, Superior Drummer 2 EZX
  • Alt-Rock
  • Americana
  • Big Rock Drums
  • Claustrophobic
  • Cocktail
  • Custom Shop
  • Dream Pop
  • Drumkit From Hell
  • Drums Of Destruction
  • Electronic
  • Funkmasters
  • Hip-Hop!
  • Indie Folk
  • Jazz
  • Latin Percussion
  • Made of Metal
  • Metal!
  • Metal Machine
  • Metalheads
  • Modern/Vintage
  • Nashville
  • Number 1 Hits
  • Pop!
  • Pop/Rock
  • Post-Rock
  • Progressive Rock
  • Reggae
  • Rock!
  • Rock Solid
  • Seventies Rock
  • Southern Soul
  • The Blues
  • The Classic
  • Traditional Country
  • Twisted Kit
  • Vintage Rock

Kontakt 6
Native Instruments
  • Abbey Road 50's Drummer
  • Abbey Road 60's Drummer
  • Abbey Road 70's Drummer
  • Abbey Road 80's Drummer
  • Abbey Road Modern Drummer
  • Abbey Road Vintage Drummer
  • Studio Drummer
Analogue Drums
  • Big Mono 1.70
  • Big Mono Redux 1.72
  • BlackSmith 1.02
  • Bombastix 1.03
  • Boxer 1.02
  • BuckShot 1.70
  • DeadBeat 1.04
  • FatStacks 1.85
  • Gorilla 1.82
  • Grandioso 1.70
  • KingPin 1.80
  • MonoTown 1.50
  • Pizazz 1.01
  • Plastique 1.81
  • PopSticks 1.72
  • PopSticks SC 1.72
  • RockStock 1.72
  • RockStock SC 1.72
  • Royale 1.01
  • Smoker 1.00
  • SnareCity 1.72
  • SplitSticks 1.70
Chocolate Audio
  • The Black Album Drums 2.0.3
Drumasonic
  • Drumasonic 2
  • Drumasonic Luxury
DrumForge
  • DrumForge (Kick, Snare and Toms only)
GetGood Drums
  • Halpern Drums v2
  • Invasion
  • Modern & Massive Drums
Ocean Way Drums
  • Platinum/Gold with V-Drum mapping (one piece at a time)
Sennheiser
  • DrumMic'a



DSoundTool Tips
To use DSoundTool the first thing to check is that you have a good version of Java installed.
In doubt uninstall all instances of Java first and install the latest JRE version you can find for your OS (64-bit for Windows 64-bit) here (http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7-downloads-1880261.html)

Ideally your computer should have enough RAM to use REAPER and DSoundTool at the same time.
Use Windows 64-bit if you can, on Windows 32-bit Java can't really use more than 1400MB of RAM.
If you need to launch DSoundTool manually, do not click on dsoundtool.jar, instead always use a dsoundtool.bat file to start it with the correct settings.

You will find two .bat files in the SDSE folder that can be used to start DSoundTool on Windows 32-bit or 64-bit.
The previous solution to avoid the Java "out of memory" error was to raise the memory Java could use, but after many tests I would now recommend different settings.
This combination of settings appears to work very well at minimizing memory drain when producing several .dsnd one after another.

Windows 32-bit:
start javaw -Xincgc -Xmx1300m -jar dsoundtool.jar
if you get "out of memory" errors try increasing -Xmx to 1400m or a maximum of 1500m.

Windows 64-bit:
start javaw -Xincgc -Xmx2000m -jar dsoundtool.jar
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: digitalDrummer on November 24, 2012, 01:15:53 AM
Well done. I'm sure this will be a game changer for many VST fans.
Good luck with this.
Are you planning a Mac version?
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Jman on November 24, 2012, 02:28:29 AM
SDSE ROCKS!  :rock: This is one incredible tool. I have spent countless hours building dsnds one at a time. This tool makes it a super simple and super fast process for doing an entire kit in minutes. Glad I was able to help with the beta testing. J
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: fulrmr on November 24, 2012, 04:43:05 AM
EXCELLENT! Somehow I knew this would be coming. ;) Can't wait to give it a go. Thanks! :) :patbat2box:
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: nonoduweb on November 24, 2012, 07:19:53 AM
Good one! Thanks for sharing this Luxar (and thanks to Jman).  ;D

I will test this soon! 

It' sad to see that new products come from users and not from the creators. 

Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Lustar on November 24, 2012, 04:44:17 PM
Thanks for your comments :)

digitalDrummer: Unfortunately there won't be a Mac version. The good news is that Mac users can still use it by installing it on a Windows virtual machine. It's not as convenient but at least it should work.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Murgen on November 24, 2012, 05:52:05 PM
Thanks for your comments :)

digitalDrummer: Unfortunately there won't be a Mac version. The good news is that Mac users can still use it by installing it on a Windows virtual machine. It's not as convenient but at least it should work.

Pity, I work on an iMac. Got my 2box software on the Mac too. Got a PC too but hardly use it. However, I'm gonna dig into this. I have 25 GB free on my extended SD card for some extra kits.  :)
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: RockStarGate on November 25, 2012, 02:59:48 AM
Trying it out but keep getting message "dsoundtool nothing to convert"
I must be missing something....try again tomorrow.
I'm sure this is awesome, thanks for your hard work Lustar!
Will it be able to convert Metal Foundry as well?
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Lustar on November 25, 2012, 11:06:34 AM
To export from SD2 to .wav then .dsnd in one click you can use the "All" button. That's what 2Box users will want to use most of the time.
Sometimes you may want to export to .wav and not create dsnd files even if DSoundTool is open so you would use the wav button.
The dsnd button is meant to build to dsnd from existing wav files. To build directly from .wav your files must be named using the zone names you can see in SDSE.ini.

With the evaluation version you can export all the instruments from Avatar except Hats and Cymbals.
With the full version you can export all instruments from most SDX or EZX including Avatar and Metal Foundry. I'll do my best to support more SDX and EZX if someone finds that his favourite library is not fully supported.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: tower of p on November 25, 2012, 12:58:31 PM
That´s great, I´m really looking forward to testing this! (though I´m still waiting for my sd-extension-cable ordered weeks ago somewhere in like indonesia...so no free space left in my brain right now). Will have to dig out my old win-pc as well.

I think this is an awesome community, where people are so enthusiastic and create stuff like this!
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: beppedrum on November 25, 2012, 01:44:32 PM
Lustar write
"Automatically export Drum instruments or whole kits from a VST like Superior Drummer 2 to .wav and optionally to .dsnd and .dkit.
The process is fully automated for SD2 and basic functionality should work with other VSTs as long as they are set to use the same MIDI map. Please contact me if you would like another VST to be supported.
It can also be used without Reaper or a VST to quickly build Hats from .wav sounds using DSoundTool."

You can prepare a version for BFD2?
It 's very complicated? It takes a long time?
thanks for your great work

Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Lustar on November 26, 2012, 12:17:29 AM
beppedrum, it wouldn't be complicated but would still take time. I'd like to add support for it but I don't have BFD2 so I can't promise anything.

Edit:
SDSE v1.1.1 released
- fix for a special case that could happen when exporting from the Music City SDX
- compatibility with older versions of Reaper 4
You don't need to upgrade from v1.0 if you aren't using Music City or if your Reaper version is greater than 4.25.
If you wish to upgrade to any new version in the future you will simply have to extract the new version over your current installation and overwrite all files, the configuration won't be overwritten.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: RockStarGate on November 28, 2012, 12:59:12 PM
AWESOME PROGRAM! I bought the full version last weekend, only $20, and it's simply amazing. FANTASTIC job Lustar! 5 STARS!
Anyone who's thinking about purchasing it should go for it. I converted every drum, cymbal and HiHat in Metal Foundry, Avatar and Custom & Vintage to .dsnds and even did a few full kit Sneep presets.
Lustar was extremely helpful getting everthing going for me, I had a few problems at first but he always responded to my emails FAST!
Reward Lustar for his hard work and BUY SDSE!  :rock:
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Jman on November 28, 2012, 08:53:00 PM
AWESOME PROGRAM! I bought the full version last weekend, only $20, and it's simply amazing. FANTASTIC job Lustar! 5 STARS!
Anyone who's thinking about purchasing it should go for it. I converted every drum, cymbal and HiHat in Metal Foundry, Avatar and Custom & Vintage to .dsnds and even did a few full kit Sneep presets.
Lustar was extremely helpful getting everthing going for me, I had a few problems at first but he always responded to my emails FAST!
Reward Lustar for his hard work and BUY SDSE!  :rock:

Absolutely agree!  I've gone back and rebuilt some of my earliest .dsnds I had built when I first started doing them. Very Fast and Very Easy! Another plus Lustar built into SDSE ... it is optimized so it doesn't cut your samples off short during the build process. I've noticed a little bit of that tail chopping in some of my earlier .dsnds but not in the ones built with the current version of SDSE. J
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Murgen on November 30, 2012, 04:11:01 PM
Help, got a  http://lustark.com/index.php?option=com_caddy&action=paysuccess and then load-error on the return page from Paypal to Lustark.
 
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Lustar on November 30, 2012, 04:25:07 PM
Thanks for your order Murgen, I'll have to look into this but I did receive your order and you should have received the full version in your inbox a few minutes ago.

Edit: the issue with the return page is fixed now
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Murgen on November 30, 2012, 04:38:56 PM
It did! Just the issue that I ordered and downloaded on my PC and the mail is on my Mac. It worked, thanx Lustar.

My drum-teacher, also an enthusiastic 2Box player in his free time, and I joined forces and I will convert his samples (Superior Drummer). Looking forward entering a new world and you truly make the open source a reality. 
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: TipNTap on November 30, 2012, 08:31:23 PM
Hi Lustar,

you wrote:
Quote
Various features require one or several of the following programs:

    Reaper 4+ 32/64 - www.reaper.fm
    a VST like Superior Drummer 2 - www.toontrack.com
    DSoundTool 1.12 - www.shortestpath.se/dsoundtool
Do I need Reaper4+ to create DSNDs and kits from Superior Drummer? What features depend on DSoundTool?

Many thanks!

Markus
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Lustar on November 30, 2012, 10:10:12 PM
Yes, to export from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd you'll need both Reaper 4 and DSoundTool.
Reaper 4 is required to exporting to .wav and DSoundTool is required to export to .dsnd.
SDSE can be used without Reaper to quickly build dsnd files from any .wav files using DsoundTool if you name your files using the zone names found in the SDSE.ini configuration file. So if you have existing drum instruments in .wav format you would just have to rename the files to import them to .dsnd.
If you export a whole kit from SD2 to .dsnd SDSE will generate a matching .dkit (single kit) so you'll just have to copy the files to your SD card and start playing.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: digitalDrummer on November 30, 2012, 11:28:47 PM
I don't want to bang on (pardon the pun) about Mac compatibility, but can we see by virtual show of hands how many people would be interested in a Mac version of SDSE? I'm sure if there are enough of us interested, we may convince the developer to apply his magic to our OS. Alternatively, there may be a Mac whiz out there who can adapt the scripts?
This product is seemingly too good to just remain in the Windows domain.
Other niche e-drum apps like VDrumLib and ZenEdit, which don't have huge markets, have been adapted, so let's hope that same can happen here.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: RockStarGate on December 01, 2012, 03:35:45 PM
I don't want to bang on (pardon the pun) about Mac compatibility, but can we see by virtual show of hands how many people would be interested in a Mac version of SDSE? I'm sure if there are enough of us interested, we may convince the developer to apply his magic to our OS. Alternatively, there may be a Mac whiz out there who can adapt the scripts?
This product is seemingly too good to just remain in the Windows domain.
Other niche e-drum apps like VDrumLib and ZenEdit, which don't have huge markets, have been adapted, so let's hope that same can happen here.

I think Lustar would would develop his product further if people start buying it! The 2box world is small, the few of us that can benefit from products for 2box should support those who develop them!
$20 is a small price to pay, if you have a Mac, buy it anyways, if you have BFD and not SD, buy it anyways....the updates will keep coming if his PayPal account gets FAT!  :patbat2box:
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: beppedrum on December 02, 2012, 02:27:11 PM
Just bought SDSE
Now Lustark i'm waiting for your software and for BFD2 version!

can you made a short video tutorial like Brian-D?
Ciao
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Slap the drummer on December 03, 2012, 01:22:45 PM
Wow!
This thing is amazing...

when the orange haze descends and things start happening real fast,
it's a beautiful sight to behold!

Many thanks to Lustar for sharing this, and for being so quick to help me get it
up and running.   :)

I was a bit hesitant about having to use Reaper coz I just don't even understand
what it is exactly...

So it's worth highlighting that setting up Reaper was in fact a doddle and then it just
sits there doing whatever it is that it does - all you have to do is open it and close it.

 :animal:
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: RockStarGate on December 04, 2012, 03:43:57 AM
So I've been messing around trying to get BFD to work with SDSE. I was able to map the snare and kick to the proper midi notes and run SDSE. I did get .dsnd's from it but the tails get abruptly cut-off. Don't know where to go from there....I also noticed that when I just loaded one or two instruments in BFD that SDSE would still run the whole procedure unlike SD where if only one instrument was loaded, SDSE would just run for that one instrument and then create a .dsnd.
I would love an answer but I know nobody has one....just posting what I've done.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Lustar on December 04, 2012, 02:01:21 PM
beppedrum, I'll make a video tutorial soon.

Slap, Reaper is a "digital audio workstation" software, here we're just using it to playback VST sounds but you could also use it to record a song with multiple tracks. Love the Orange haze bit comment ;D

RockStarGate, if the tails get cut off try increasing the volume in BFD it should help.
It's normal that SDSE would do that, it doesn't read the list of instruments like it does for SD2. You can try enabling zone manually in Reaper. I'm sorry that I can't be of much help about BFD2 for now.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Rider on December 09, 2012, 02:11:38 AM
sadly i cant get it to work , and its not sdse fault
sdse its great!!

but dsndtool will not ever work for me, it always gave me the not enough memory bla bla error , and ive tried all the workarrounds posted here and still no succes.

will u ever consiider doing your own dsnd builder and include it with sdse??

thx and keep up the great work
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: RockStarGate on December 09, 2012, 12:25:20 PM


RockStarGate, if the tails get cut off try increasing the volume in BFD it should help.
It's normal that SDSE would do that, it doesn't read the list of instruments like it does for SD2. You can try enabling zone manually in Reaper. I'm sorry that I can't be of much help about BFD2 for now.

That didn't work, oh well, just have to do it the hard way  :o
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Lustar on December 09, 2012, 02:00:36 PM
Rider, it's true that DSoundTool can produce those errors but otherwise it's a great tool that is very useful to 2Box users. I think the best solution is to support the DSoundTool author by registering it and asking for a fix. The only practical problem most people encounter is probably that it doesn't free memory after creating a .dsnd file.

Here are some tips about DsoundTool memory errors, you may already have tried them but it could be useful to others and maybe it could make it work for you.

The first thing to check is that you have a good version of Java installed.
In doubt uninstall all instances of Java first and install the latest JRE version you can find on oracle.com
(right now it's JRE7u9: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7u9-downloads-1859586.html)

To make sure DSoundTool doesn't give an out of memory error the solution that will work for sure is to have plenty of RAM. Ideally your computer should have enough RAM to use Reaper, Superior Drummer 2 and DSoundTool at the same time.

Check the amount of RAM in your computer and try to adjust the value in dsoundtool.bat:

to use up to 2GB of RAM for DSoundTool you need at least 4GB of RAM in your computer
start javaw -Xmx2048M -Xms1024M -jar "dsoundtool.jar"
you can also try to increase this value
start javaw -Xmx2560M -Xms1024M -jar "dsoundtool.jar"

If you have more than 8GB of RAM you could try this to use 5GB for DsoundTool which should be enough to export two full kits in a row.
start javaw -Xmx5120M -Xms1024M -jar "dsoundtool.jar"

If you don't have much RAM and can't use SDSE to export several instruments without experiencing out of memory errors you could proceed like this:
- Use the wav button to export to .wav. When it's done click on "clear" in Superior Drummer 2 (bottom left) to free up memory.
- Use the dsnd button to convert the .wav files we just exported to .dsnd. SDSE will load the instrument names from SD2 but samples don't have to be loaded to do that.
- Make sure to close DSoundTool before exporting a new instrument.
The drawback of this solution is that you would have to reload sounds in Superior Drummer 2 after each export job to export another instrument.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Rider on December 09, 2012, 07:15:29 PM
Thx lustar , after posting this i went and uninstalled java , and installed the x64 version , and that fixed it , now im a happy user of new samples on my 2box  :rock:

will contact u for the full ver.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Murgen on December 09, 2012, 07:34:52 PM
YaY!  :rock:
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Lundin on December 10, 2012, 02:41:37 AM
AWESOME PROGRAM! I bought the full version last weekend, only $20, and it's simply amazing. FANTASTIC job Lustar! 5 STARS!
Anyone who's thinking about purchasing it should go for it. I converted every drum, cymbal and HiHat in Metal Foundry, Avatar and Custom & Vintage to .dsnds and even did a few full kit Sneep presets.
Lustar was extremely helpful getting everthing going for me, I had a few problems at first but he always responded to my emails FAST!
Reward Lustar for his hard work and BUY SDSE!  :rock:

Haha.. aight.. that's a response i like to see.. I got a mail from my friend Bengt ( Mr 2box) tha someone had made this program that could make a conversion.. i purchased the license before i knew what it did :D..

I have all SDX expansions and just can't wait to see what it sounds like with them in the box.

@Lustar: Great work!
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: roel on December 10, 2012, 05:14:41 PM
Does anybody have some Superior Drummer 2 DSND Samples in his 2box module now, how does it sound?
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Murgen on December 10, 2012, 06:48:29 PM
Gonna do some work on this in my mandatory holiday break (< - IT contractor).

Luster: I have a network with a NAS as networkdrive. I assume it must be possible to run software on both iMac (my main workstation) and my PC (for Windows oriented software).
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: RockStarGate on December 10, 2012, 08:08:24 PM
Does anybody have some Superior Drummer 2 DSND Samples in his 2box module now, how does it sound?

Every sample in my module is from Superior Drummer 2 and they sound fantastic! I couldn't be more
happy that I switched from Roland to 2box!
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Lustar on December 10, 2012, 08:46:34 PM
Lundin: you'll need two 32GB cards to fit all those SDX! :)

roel: I was going to redirect you to this topic from Jman with a video of his first 2Box demos including SD2 kits http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php?topic=912.0 (http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php?topic=912.0) but saw that you replied to it last year :) If you were concerned about how they sound when exported using SDSE in particular they sound the same as the .dsnd we used to export manually, it's the same process only faster and easier.

Murgen: You'll need SDSE and Reaper on the same Windows computer but you should be able to save the .wav and .dsnd files directly to the NAS by setting "Path to destination files" to you network drive in SDSE.ini.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: roel on December 11, 2012, 06:54:45 PM
Lundin: you'll need two 32GB cards to fit all those SDX! :)

roel: I was going to redirect you to this topic from Jman with a video of his first 2Box demos including SD2 kits http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php?topic=912.0 (http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php?topic=912.0) but saw that you replied to it last year :) If you were concerned about how they sound when exported using SDSE in particular they sound the same as the .dsnd we used to export manually, it's the same process only faster and easier.

Murgen: You'll need SDSE and Reaper on the same Windows computer but you should be able to save the .wav and .dsnd files directly to the NAS by setting "Path to destination files" to you network drive in SDSE.ini.

Oh yes you are right, thank you they sound fantastic! still I can use more good hihat and cymbal samples.
Are there a few good samples from Superior Drummer 2 for the hihat and cymbals? maby some of you guys will post some samples from Superiour Drummer 2 here for testing.
dsnd samples for hihat and cymbals would be great! anyway man I love my 2box set its great.
Keep on drumming guys its a fine hobby.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Lustar on December 11, 2012, 09:38:22 PM
About posting dsnd samples, Toontrack is kind enough to allow personal use of those samples but we're not allowed to distribute them.
Love the 2Box too :)
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Lundin on December 12, 2012, 12:57:59 PM
Thanks Lustar for all help.
I finally got the conversion to work with the new chunky mem-setting in the Java .bat.. woohoo

I have the extender cable attached and a fast memory reader so i guess it's not necessary to have them all on the SD-card at one time.. but nice to have them converted.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: roel on December 12, 2012, 06:29:21 PM
About posting dsnd samples, Toontrack is kind enough to allow personal use of those samples but we're not allowed to distribute them.
Love the 2Box too :)

Ok can you explain how I can convert Toontrack Superior Drummer 2 samples to 2box dsnd samples.
Iam a rookie in converting samples...
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Lustar on December 12, 2012, 08:47:36 PM
If you have a computer with Windows you'll find that it is really easy.

You will need to install Superior Drummer 2, Reaper 4, DSoundTool 1.12 and SDSE.
Make sure to start DSoundTool using settings posted here (http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php?topic=1544.msg14396#msg14396)

Here's how you would export from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd once you have everything set up:
- Open Reaper and load the SDSE.rpp project if it's not already loaded (File, Open Project), open DSoundTool, open SDSE.
- Enable the drum instruments you would like to export in Superior Drummer 2
- click "All" in SDSE (or press F1) then wait. When it's finished you will find your new .dsnd in the SDSE folder.

Once you have exported your first .dsnd there are a lot of settings you may be interested in changing to suit your needs, like the destination path of the newly created .dsnd. The included readme contains more details. Please contact me by email if you need more help getting started.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Murgen on December 12, 2012, 08:50:16 PM
This will be my Christmas project, next to installing fiber to my home.  :rock:
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: roel on December 12, 2012, 10:01:11 PM
If you have a computer with Windows you'll find that it is really easy.

You will need to install Superior Drummer 2, Reaper 4, DSoundTool 1.12 and SDSE.
Make sure to start DSoundTool using settings posted here (http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php?topic=1544.msg14396#msg14396)

Here's how you would export from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd once you have everything set up:
- Open Reaper and load the SDSE.rpp project if it's not already loaded (File, Open Project), open DSoundTool, open SDSE.
- Enable the drum instruments you would like to export in Superior Drummer 2
- click "All" in SDSE (or press F1) then wait. When it's finished you will find your new .dsnd in the SDSE folder.

Once you have exported your first .dsnd there are a lot of settings you may be interested in changing to suit your needs, like the destination path of the newly created .dsnd. The included readme contains more details. Please contact me by email if you need more help getting started.

Thank you.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Jman on December 21, 2012, 03:02:04 AM
I used SDSE with Addictive Drums today. I remapped the instruments in AD so all the drums, plus the ride, cowbell, HH parts, and one cymbal (I don't use the cymbals much from AD since they are only single zone)and got it working to create WAVS and subsequently dsnds. Just generic, Ride, Tom 1, etc. naming that way, but much better than doing them the manual way. I'll post more on it in a separate thread along with a link to my Reaper file/preset for those AD users who want it ... no time right now, but prolly tomorrow..... J
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Lustar on December 21, 2012, 01:05:20 PM
That's great news Jman, it will make it possible to add full support to Addictive Drums in SDSE :)
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Jman on December 22, 2012, 12:01:12 AM
I also did similar with Steven Slate Drums 4 a full kit of WAVS, all drums and all cymbals except the Hi hat .... then converted to dsnds ... came out fine. Hi Hat....  that would require a bit more remapping. But for the most part AD and SSD4 will work this way. And the dsnds come out fine.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Danny on December 23, 2012, 05:06:56 PM
please please please make this program work with the analog drums samples (kontakt).

http://www.analoguedrums.com/

Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Danny on December 23, 2012, 05:45:38 PM
i always get the "not enough memory" error from dsoundtool...
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Lustar on December 23, 2012, 06:40:34 PM
In time the goal is to support more VSTs but I can't guarantee that it will work exactly the same as for Superior Drummer 2.
I see that you were in contact with Dylan from analoguedrums, perhaps he would be interested to help make this happen?

To fix this error message, please try the settings from this post (http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php?topic=1544.msg14396#msg14396), if it still doesn't work please send me an email and we'll figure it out.

Support for Addictive Drums is coming soon, Jman has already tested it and the first results are encouraging.
I added a poll to this topic, let's vote for the next VST to be supported after Addictive Drums!
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Danny on December 23, 2012, 07:04:34 PM
i tried the settings from the "out of memory" thread but it wont work. i had the same problems in the past with dsoundtool until i gave up using it. i really want to spend my $$$ on your great software as soon as it works for me.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Jman on December 23, 2012, 07:45:14 PM
i tried the settings from the "out of memory" thread but it wont work. i had the same problems in the past with dsoundtool until i gave up using it. i really want to spend my $$$ on your great software as soon as it works for me.
You may also need to remove your Java app, then download and install the latest version. Lustar mentioned that earlier in the thread. I was running the Latest update of Java 6.37. I removed that and installed the new version 7 and so far it seems to be running smooth. One tip on the Java install, I had both 32 and 64bit versions on my PC. After uninstalling, I only installed the 32bit version and had problems ... turns out previously I was using the 64bit version. Once I installed the 64bit version all was well.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Danny on December 24, 2012, 07:59:15 AM
You may also need to remove your Java app, then download and install the latest version. Lustar mentioned that earlier in the thread. I was running the Latest update of Java 6.37. I removed that and installed the new version 7 and so far it seems to be running smooth. One tip on the Java install, I had both 32 and 64bit versions on my PC. After uninstalling, I only installed the 32bit version and had problems ... turns out previously I was using the 64bit version. Once I installed the 64bit version all was well.

great! that did the trick!!
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Danny on December 26, 2012, 01:18:24 PM
i still have the problem with not enough memory on dsoundtool. mostly on the hihats and cymbals. it tried every solution which was discussed on the forum but it just wont work. i have a total von 4 GB RAM if that helps...
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Lustar on December 26, 2012, 01:39:49 PM
With 4GB of RAM it will work for sure if you export one hihats dsnd at a time.
When you have exported several dsnd, make sure to close DSoundTool and open it again to get back free RAM. Also make sure to close any program that could be using RAM before exporting.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: ddrummer68 on December 26, 2012, 06:30:46 PM
I am primarily a Mac user, but will be buying this today, regardless.   I will pay again, for a Mac version, should one be released.  In the meantime, I'll break out the rarely-used Windows 7 PC.

One question, does SDSE have any way to address the snare/rimshot problem in SD?  Jman had talked about it previously, where you create a DSND and the higher velocities end up being rimshots.  That stopped me cold, because I hadn't yet had the time to go back in and edit out the 'rimshot' head sounds.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Lustar on December 26, 2012, 06:58:55 PM
To get rid of the highest snare velocities you could adjust the velocity in SD2 by lowering the left slider on the mapping page.
It's a matter of preference so you may not be bothered by it. In SD2 if you listen to the highest velocities by clicking at the bottom of the mapping page then compare to the sounds if you set the Snare to rimshot you'll see that they are not the same samples. To me it sounds like a snare receiving the most brutal hits and not exactly rimshots but it's true that the highest velocities sound different and contain the same resonance as rimshot sounds.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Jman on December 26, 2012, 09:53:19 PM
Like Lustar says lowering the highest velocity in the map settings will work if you want to eliminate the hits that sound similar to rimshots. Again, like Lustar mentioned that type of high velocity behavior/sound in SD2 bothers some, some like it. Honestly, there are some snares that I built and left the high velocities as is and I really love em ..... the NirZ snare is one of them. I love the way it plays and sounds with that powerful "Crack" on the loudest hits. Some other snares I removed it.

One tip on removing that sound layer .... it is not the same for every snare. If you lower the velocity from 128 to 127, then 127 to 126 .... etc. when you get to the layer where you no longer hear it, that's it ... some times that might be as low as 117 ... or even lower.
It is not only SD2 that behaves that way on snares ... SSD4 for one has some that do that.... but not all.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: ddrummer68 on December 28, 2012, 04:45:40 PM
SDSE is a great time saver, and is exactly what I've hoped for in using my Superior library with 2box.  Thank you!

I'm going to post one minor issue here, but want to be very clear that it is by no means insurmountable.  I'm only mentioning it, to share information, and in case anyone has any troubleshooting ideas.  I'll keep working on it myself as well.

When I use the "All" button in SDSE, it cannot seem to create the Hi-Hats properly in the Dsound tool.  From what I see on the screen, it gets to the point where it starts loading the various Hi-Hat wave files, but doesn't quite make it through that.  It's not completely consistent, but in the most recent example, the top 2 wav files (Bow Open and Bow 80 Open) appeared in the list.  The next 8 samples were left blank.  I could see the cursor tab through each of these, but no text appeared.  The Edge 20 Open box was filled in as referencing a crash cymbal dsnd (16 Sa Extra ThCr T HHDuo B_Na.dsnd).  The remaining 2 samples were left blank.

This happens every time I use the "All" button.  I've raised Dsound's memory to about 5GB, and I close the Dsound tool after every iteration of exporting samples.  The way I've chosen to work around this for now, is to export to WAV first, then come back and use the DSND button.  That seems to work fine.

Again, I do not want to sound like I'm complaining.  SDSE has made a tedious process much less so.  I am very thankful, Lustar, for the work that you and Jman have done to make this a reality.

Bobby

Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Jman on December 28, 2012, 07:38:59 PM
SDSE is a great time saver, and is exactly what I've hoped for in using my Superior library with 2box.  Thank you!

I'm going to post one minor issue here, but want to be very clear that it is by no means insurmountable.  I'm only mentioning it, to share information, and in case anyone has any troubleshooting ideas.  I'll keep working on it myself as well.

When I use the "All" button in SDSE, it cannot seem to create the Hi-Hats properly in the Dsound tool.  From what I see on the screen, it gets to the point where it starts loading the various Hi-Hat wave files, but doesn't quite make it through that.  It's not completely consistent, but in the most recent example, the top 2 wav files (Bow Open and Bow 80 Open) appeared in the list.  The next 8 samples were left blank.  I could see the cursor tab through each of these, but no text appeared.  The Edge 20 Open box was filled in as referencing a crash cymbal dsnd (16 Sa Extra ThCr T HHDuo B_Na.dsnd).  The remaining 2 samples were left blank.

This happens every time I use the "All" button.  I've raised Dsound's memory to about 5GB, and I close the Dsound tool after every iteration of exporting samples.  The way I've chosen to work around this for now, is to export to WAV first, then come back and use the DSND button.  That seems to work fine.

Again, I do not want to sound like I'm complaining.  SDSE has made a tedious process much less so.  I am very thankful, Lustar, for the work that you and Jman have done to make this a reality.

Bobby

I'm sure Lustar will help ya out here. So, if I understand you correctly, SDSE stalls/freezes on you when building the HH dsnd. Just so ya know though ... that Hi Hat you mentioned is from the NY Allaire library. It isn't a crash, it's a HH built with crash cymbals (the only HH in Allaire). The stall is related to DsoundTool/Java. That stall/freeze is one of the things that I did have happen also. We went through a whole bunch of Beta versions and I haven't had it happen on mine in the latest versions. But like I say, Lustar will help you out. As you mentioned that it is not consistent, when it happened to me ..... it might happen one time, I would shut down/escape the program, start everything again, press ALL and everything would work fine. And it would work fine over and over from then on while working on more kits that session .... It seemed like a "bottleneck" type thing with DsoundTool .... at least my non tech description ...  :) Building the entire kit with the Hi Hat disabled/turned off in SD is a quick temporary solution. And then building the HH by itself on another pass ..... or doing the two steps you mentioned ..... J
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Lustar on December 28, 2012, 07:50:30 PM
You may have already done it but just in case, the first thing I would do is double check the Java version. Sometimes you can have several versions of Java installed on the same computer. If you didn't try it already, uninstall all versions and install the 32 or 64-bit version from here (http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7-downloads-1880261.html).
I'm sending you an email with a possible solution.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Pedro Fernandez on December 28, 2012, 10:59:45 PM
Hi Lustar and all other SDSE users!
I'm waiting now for my retail box version of SD2. In between time I've installed an old Windows7 copy with bootcamp on my Mac Mini.
Could someone do some tutorials about all the process to do our own new dsnd files?
It could be very helpful for newbies like me and a good kick to encourage people to buy SDSE and Dsound tool.
Thanks again for sharing all those informations tips and tricks!
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Lustar on December 28, 2012, 11:18:32 PM
Hi Perico, I regrouped all the information in the first post now, with a typical usage example. For more information please refer to the included documentation. Don't hesitate to send me an email if you have any question.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Pedro Fernandez on December 28, 2012, 11:39:02 PM
Ok thank you very much Lustar!
I will make my first test as soon as I get my SD2 box.
I know that some 2box users with MacOs systems like me are disappointed about not having an OsX SDSE version and I hope it will be ok for me to do all the process with a Bootcamp Windows installation.
I'll give my feedbacks as soon as I can.
Thanks to all the 2box community!
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Rider on January 07, 2013, 05:56:40 AM
i think studio drummer and bfd2 should be supported
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: digitalDrummer on January 07, 2013, 11:15:53 AM
I think you'll find some demand for Addictive Drums.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Jman on January 07, 2013, 02:58:30 PM
I think you'll find some demand for Addictive Drums.
Lustar has the version supporting Addictive drums in the works.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: RockStarGate on January 08, 2013, 09:39:33 PM
Lustar has the version supporting Addictive drums in the works.

That will be nice, I somehow lost alot of my dsnd's somehow and don't really want to manually re-do them...kinda spoiled with SDSE!
Title: Re: SDSE: from VST to .wav .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Lustar on January 08, 2013, 10:27:25 PM
SDSE 1.2.0 is now available with support for Addictive Drums

Exporting whole kits or single instruments from Addictive Drums using SDSE 1.2 is done in one click and with the same set of features as exporting from Superior Drummer 2 using SDSE. .dsnd files are named using the original instrument names (also optionally the library name) and a .dkit file is created when you export a full kit.

The first post is updated with the list of supported Superior Drummer 2 and Addictive Drums libraries.

Here is the list of changes since 1.0

To Update to this new version from an existing installation:
- extract the new version in your current SDSE folder, overwrite all files (your configuration won't be overwritten)
- if you only made changes to the main configuration in SDSE.ini and didn't change filename replacements or SDX short names you can safely delete all sections of SDSE.ini after "[Parameters]".
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior and Addictive to .wav .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Jman on January 09, 2013, 01:13:22 AM
Great, glad to see the new version released, nice list of improvements/changes! :rock:
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior and Addictive to .wav .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: RockStarGate on January 09, 2013, 01:24:39 PM
Great job Lustar!
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior and Addictive to .wav .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: RockStarGate on January 09, 2013, 04:33:18 PM
It's working great with AD for me. Thanks again.
BFD someday?  ;)
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior and Addictive to .wav .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Lustar on January 09, 2013, 05:22:20 PM
Thanks for the feedback. If you have any suggestions or requests about support for AD don't hesitate to send a mail.
The next VST to be supported will be the one voted in the poll... ;)
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior and Addictive to .wav .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Pedro Fernandez on January 12, 2013, 01:27:43 AM
Hi everybody!
I have my SD2 copy now, a SDSE licence, Reaper (evaluation version for now) installed and Dsound Tool too.
When I launch Reaper I have a message error concerning SD2 : https://www.dropbox.com/s/2lpl9pdq5glupoa/Reaper_SDerror.PNG (https://www.dropbox.com/s/2lpl9pdq5glupoa/Reaper_SDerror.PNG)

Here you have a screenshot of the 1st install Dvd of SD2 : https://www.dropbox.com/s/0a67hq88kf5yfw0/SD2_InstallDisc.PNG (https://www.dropbox.com/s/0a67hq88kf5yfw0/SD2_InstallDisc.PNG)
First I have installed the Superior Drummer Sound Library in an external HDD but the files installed on the folder I choosed are .obw files!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/aljwdq4xrh91724/SL-AvatarSounds.PNG (https://www.dropbox.com/s/aljwdq4xrh91724/SL-AvatarSounds.PNG)
Then I have installed Toontrack solo and EZplayer Pro!
I'm a complete newbie in this stuff and I'm completly lost!  :o
Can somebody help me, telling me exactly what I have to do step by step!
If you need more infos and screenshots to help me don't hesitate to ask.
Thanks!
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior and Addictive to .wav .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Lustar on January 12, 2013, 01:57:06 AM
Hi Perico,

You don't need Toontrack solo and EZplayer to export sounds, you just need Superior Drummer.

It looks like you may not have set your VST plugins path in Reaper, to do so:
press CTRL+P in Reaper to open the Preferences window, scroll down to "VST", click "Add" to browse to the folder where you have installed the Superior Drummer dll (C:\Program Files\VstPlugins or C:\Program Files (x86)\VSTPlugins if you use the 32bit version of Reaper on a 64bit OS). Click "Re-scan", then Apply. Close Reaper, open it again and see if it loaded SD2.
(I'm sending you a mail)

Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior and Addictive to .wav .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Pedro Fernandez on January 12, 2013, 05:16:24 PM
Hi everybody!
Just want to let you know that I've managed to make everything works well with Windows7 installed in a Mac Mini with bootcamp!
Thanks to Lustar who helped me a lot to allow me (a newbie in audio and sounds softs) to create my first dsnd files from SD2!
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior and Addictive to .wav .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: beppedrum on January 13, 2013, 03:05:33 PM
HI everybody
here's pic of output of SDSE from S.D .20 (21-Sabian-HH-Vintage)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img46/5039/swissride2box.jpg)
and here's an image of dsnd file (Swiss_PR_22_Ride) from 2box factory
(http://imageshack.us/a/img546/778/sabianvintagesuperiordr.jpg)

why the order of layers is changed?
The Swiss ride file, original from 2Box, works well with Stealth Jman's ride
The Sabian Ride, from SD 2.0 and SDSE don't works well  >:(
What can I do?
Thanx
 
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior and Addictive to .wav .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Lustar on January 13, 2013, 04:02:56 PM
Hi beppedrum,
The order is not the problem, DSoundTool always saves cymbals using this order and with those names.
When you hit those zones on your cymbal you should get the correct zones.

I just exported this Ride and it's ok here, something must have happened but from your screenshots your file is the correct size and with the correct amount of layers.
What seems to be the problem with the dsnd?
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior and Addictive to .wav .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: beppedrum on January 13, 2013, 05:59:38 PM
when I hit the bow (tip) zone I read in the UNIT-TRIG page
(http://imageshack.us/a/img6/1088/img1525b.jpg)
the zone is the number 4! Sorry for the image but imageshack don't rotate the  iphone photo!!
This happens on the ride with all the files DSND ride
But the Swiss file (2box) has a good level sound on the area while the file BOW Sabian SD2.0 no sound in zone 3.
Why exits the number 4?
(maybe it's better that I ask Jman)  :o  ???
thanks Lustar
ciao
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior and Addictive to .wav .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Jman on January 13, 2013, 06:29:00 PM
Hi beppedrum: You should email me. That way I can get all the specifics to check if it is just a trigger parameter adjustment or other. J

as a side note: in Unit-Trig area .... Zone 4 is the bow, Zone 1 is the Bell, Zone 8 or 9 the Edge. Send me an email, thanks.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior and Addictive to .wav .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Jman on January 14, 2013, 12:22:11 AM
OK, email sent. That is just one of those SD2 rides with a bell articulation that is not loud, not a stick shoulder type hit sound, it is a stick tip bell type sound. I did mention a way you should be able to raise that level a bit  by editing the volume level of the bell articulation in SD2. Be sure to click Edit articulation only in the bottom right (instrument) corner of the SD2 Construct page. You can do all kinds of things in SD2 before creating dsnds with SDSE, all the kinds of instrument editing that SD2 is capable of, including applying presets, or making your own Mixer edits, etc...
Try some of the other rides in avatar, and try editing the bell articulation, raising the level as mentioned above.... J

Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior and Addictive to .wav .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: BURNIN AMBITION on January 23, 2013, 08:25:54 PM
hi there. i didnt pay much attention to this thread. i am doing this now. since this tool supports bfd i am thinking of buying it and supporting also the lads that made it. i have one question.
should i redo all the samples i have made from bfd, the hard way so far? meaning, that the method this tool uses, is faultless and perfect, so i should trust this tools dsnds rather than my won? (though they are great i have to say).
also perhaps since it can create whole dsnd kits i should use it to make everything from scratch to have everything with proper names? what do you guys think?
and since i havent bought it yet but i am still curious, another question, with ne click does it create all the wavs from bfd etc, from my hard drive? or do i have to click to each one sample file each time?

this program is a great idea, cant wait for bfd to be supported. so till now we have superior drummer addctive drums and in the future we will have bfd supported right? and chance also for steven slate drums? cheers
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior and Addictive to .wav .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Lustar on January 23, 2013, 09:38:13 PM
Hi Burnin Ambition, welcome aboard.

If you are happy with your current dsnd you don't really need to redo them.
But as you point out, if you plan on exporting more sounds it could be worth doing it to get the same names for different versions of the same dsnd. Say you export a whole kit, then export a kit variation by changing settings in BFD2 and filling the "Preset" field in SDSE to 2 or 3 letters like RV for Reverb, you will get the same filenames for both versions of the kit, except your .dsnd with reverb will end with "RV".

To use it, you'll launch SDSE, then in Reaper you'll have to select the parts you want to export in SD2, AD or BFD2 just like you would when setting up a kit, then click "All" or press F1 and SDSE will do the rest.
When it's done you'll find the .dsnd named using the instrument names (with the expansion name appended to the name), and if you exported a full kit a matching .dkit (single kit) for those .dsnd.

BFD2 won the previous poll, SDSE with support for BFD2 is coming very soon.
I edited the poll, you can start voting for the next VST to be supported.
If anyone knows about an interesting drum VST missing from the poll please post.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior and Addictive to .wav .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: BURNIN AMBITION on January 23, 2013, 09:59:39 PM
well thank you very very much for the answer
some more questions

i noticed in a dsnd i created at some point it created double trigger which meant that the silence was not enough in a layer, and it contained 2 sounds. also when i created for instance a crash, i have to adjust the master volume etc so that the dsnd  i create doesnt have the sound clipped. so i try and avoid red in the mixer. everything must be green. sometimes this has happened. i have the edge working fine by lowering for isntance, the master volume few dbs. then i load the bow, and i realise that still i am in red area and for bow i need to lower it a bit more. when you create the dsnds automatically by the program, does it lower the volume from the start to the optimal values so that all layers (i mean edge bow bell) have thevolume they are supposed to have? also i am guessing since you know what you are doing, there shouldnt be a problem concerning silence and gaps right?
last question. if i purchase the tool now, and in the future you provide an upgrade that supports steven slate drums for example, do i have to purchase the product again?
i am sorry for the stupid questions. just wanted to understnd some more things. cheers and well done on a great project!!! take care


edit
last question. do i have to use reaper? i dont have it cause i am using abbleton live. is it easy to use or will it give me headaches? i can operate bfd separately without abbleton, i hope it can suffice for bfd but in order to extract from superior drummer etc, i have to install reaper? thank you very much again


edit2
btw does anyone know how many gigabytes we will need for instance if we create everything from bfd and everything from superior drummer for instance? is it worth it to create all vsts? or a waste of space? should we perhaps create a thread where we list all dsnd files from the programms that are really worth creating? is this a good idea?

ps. jman any idea if there is a 64 gb(or more) sd card we can use with 2 box? my 32gb has only 3 gb left lol
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior and Addictive to .wav .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Lustar on January 23, 2013, 10:39:34 PM
SDSE includes a simple workaround for the problems you were having with your dsnd, you won't need to worry about that.
With default settings you should be able to export many .dsnd from Superior Drummer 2 and Addictive Drums (and BFD2 in the next version) and not worry about volumes. If you export presets you made, with different settings, it's possible that the volume could be too high but if SDSE detects clipping in Reaper it will abort the current operation and warn you so you can lower the master volume a bit and try again.

If you get SDSE now you'll get all updates, it could change in the future but for now that's the plan :)

You'll need Reaper to export from all supported VSTs including BFD2. You won't have to use Reaper at all, you just need to install it and open the SDSE project in it. Then selecting the instruments you want to export is done in each VST in Reaper so it will look as usual.

Don't hesitate to send me a mail if you need more help getting started.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior and Addictive to .wav .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: BURNIN AMBITION on January 23, 2013, 10:43:32 PM
ok thank you very very mych for the replys. i know i will also be a sdse owner soon enough. take care!!!!
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior and Addictive to .wav .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Jman on January 24, 2013, 01:15:11 AM
edit2
btw does anyone know how many gigabytes we will need for instance if we create everything from bfd and everything from superior drummer for instance? is it worth it to create all vsts? or a waste of space? should we perhaps create a thread where we list all dsnd files from the programms that are really worth creating? is this a good idea?

ps. jman any idea if there is a 64 gb(or more) sd card we can use with 2 box? my 32gb has only 3 gb left lol

32GB SDHC is the max size possible for the module at present to my knowledge. I doubt that will change for us. My solution is to use multiple memory cards. It only takes a matter of seconds to change memory cards in the module. That way it is possible to build a card with your favorite SD2 dsnds, one with AD dsnds, one with BFD2 dsnds ... or mix and match, etc. That way instead of filling one card and having to decide which kits to cut to make room for your next new VST set, you can just start another card fresh.
Then once you develop a preference between the various kits you have created just combine the Best of the Best onto a card..... I do that, you of course don't need to have a huge amount of cards since you can keep your dsnds on your computer and transfer those onto a card, but I still find for myself just one card is not enough.

As far as building them by hand or using SDSE:
I have built so many dsnds the old, one step at a time method, and have plenty of very nice kits and dsnds ..... but since using SDSE I can honestly say I don't ever plan to use any other method to create my new kits now. It is so quick and simple to do, and the quality of the finished dsnds is just as good as doing it the slow and tedious way, if not better at times IMO, and as Lustar mentioned even worrying about adjusting volumes to avoid clipping, etc ... will now for the most part be taken care of automatically within the SDSE project. I've been running Beta tests on the newest SDSE versions for Lustar and have left the volumes just the way they are set within the project and all the dsnds have come out great ...  this tool is Awesome!  .... J
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior and Addictive to .wav .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Rider on January 24, 2013, 04:21:17 AM
Do you think studio drummer or abbey road will be supported on the future? Those libraries are great stuff!!!!!!!
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior and Addictive to .wav .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Lustar on January 25, 2013, 10:42:30 AM
I changed option 3 in the poll to "Kontakt (Studio Drummer, Abbey Road)". They both use Kontakt Player so if one gets added the other one would follow. It's too bad Steven Slate 4 doesn't work with Kontakt (or does it?)
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior and Addictive to .wav .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: espen on January 25, 2013, 12:41:26 PM
I use Kontakt with Studio Drummer and Drumasonic. I've noticed that full-speed rendering cuts many samples. Even with online or real-time rendering there are some problems with longer samples (i.e., cymbals). I don't know if this is caused by some settings in Kontakt but I just wanted to notify. With Addictive Drums, EZDrummer or SSD4 I haven't faced those problems.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior and Addictive to .wav .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: roel on January 26, 2013, 08:47:44 AM
upload some hihat dsnd files here from superior drummer...
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior and Addictive to .wav .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Lustar on January 26, 2013, 09:35:39 AM
Sorry roel, as I told you on page 3 of this thread we are not allowed to do that, Toontrack doesn't allow sharing of those sounds. The next version will support BFD2 so if you're not sure about getting Superior Drummer 2 you can also look into BFD2 and its expansion packs. It's a pitty we can't demo those sounds but maybe people can share tips about their favorite hats.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior and Addictive to .wav .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: BURNIN AMBITION on January 26, 2013, 09:41:22 AM
that would be awesome to see what people have as their favourite sounds.

what i hate in all those vst programs is that they dont have a full range of specific model for cymbals. for instance, in my real life acoustic cymbals, i have 14 hhats 14,16,17,18 crashes and 20 ride and they are all masterwork pera cymbals. wht cant we have such a think in bfd for example? to have lkets say, 14,16,18,20 inch aax cymbals and 14 hhats. that would be awesome. is ther some other vst that does that, because bfd clearly doesnt
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior and Addictive to .wav .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: BURNIN AMBITION on January 30, 2013, 12:01:24 AM
ok i m convinced i will buy the program of course (i wil wait though for the bfd support version), but until then i have a question

i remember in another thread that when i asked about the footsplash sound in hi hats i created, jman told me that in order to have foot splash, the foot splash wav should be in the hi hat dsnd file. so mine didnt have one but in original hhat dsnds it was. i wonder if by creating dsnds with this amazing program, i will be able to have also footsplash sound? thanx
even if i dont it isnt such a big deal, but anyway i wanted to ask

in the following days i will download the trial version to see if i can manage to create dsnds (because i am stupid). i am bound to fail so expect more questions here lol. and once i am ready ill get the full program and start creating everythng  from scratch. thank you
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior and Addictive to .wav .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Lustar on January 30, 2013, 12:58:58 AM
It's true that there doesn't seem to be a library featuring the complete range of a particular model of cymbal. for BFD2 Zildjian Digital Vault (all 3 Gen16 packs in a bundle, 50% off until January 31) has a nice selection (list here (http://www.fxpansion.com/index.php?page=198&tab=482#717)). Avatar, Metal Foundry and other SDX for Superior Drummer 2 have a whole lot of Sabian.

About Foot Splash, SDSE will add it if it's available for the hats you are exporting. It's available for almost all of Superior Drummer 2 sound libraries, apparently all Addictive Drums libraries, but is not available for almost all of the BFD2 libraries. When it's not available, SDSE will use the most open sound as a substitute (BFD2 seems to do the same, it maps one of the most open sounds as the Foot Splash sound).

Please use the contact form on the site if you have trouble getting started.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior and Addictive to .wav .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: BURNIN AMBITION on January 30, 2013, 01:14:07 AM
lustar thank you very very much for the clarifications. cant wait to start all over and get all dsnds from scratch!!!
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior and Addictive to .wav .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: Lustar on February 11, 2013, 10:05:38 PM
SDSE 1.3.0 is now available with support for BFD2 and changes aimed at lowering memory requirements.
Big thanks to Jman for testing many versions over the past month.

Over one thousand BFD2 kit pieces are supported from a total of 17 BFD2 expansions.
The evaluation version can export the Ludwig Black Oyster Kick, Snare and Toms from the BFD2 library.

The BFD2 expansions use various naming schemes so it took many hours to get a clean list of all the instrument names. When exporting from any of the supported BFD2 libraries the .wav and .dsnd filenames will use the same naming scheme. If you export from a pack that is not listed as supported it will also work, including naming scheme and shrunk filenames, but the filename may be too long to use it with the DrumIt Five. Please contact me if you have a BFD2 pack that is not listed as supported and I will add support for it.


Important BFD2 tips:
To avoid any risk of getting cut samples when rendering from BFD2, go to the Reaper Preferences (CTRL+P), scroll to Plugins/VST, check "Inform plug-ins of offline rendering state", click "Apply".
BFD2 uses more memory than Superior Drummer 2 or Addictive Drums. Make sure not to load too many kit parts at once if you don't have enough memory to do so.
On a system with 4GB of RAM, loading a 10-piece kit on BFD2 can use all of the available memory.
If you have more than 8GB of RAM, you can speed up rendering by going to BFD2 > Preferences > Engine, checking "Load all to RAM" and clicking "Restart engine".


Here is the list of changes since 1.2.
Most notably, you won't have to launch DSoundTool manually.
Copy dsoundtool.jar in your SDSE folder and it will be launched when needed.

The first post is updated with the list of supported BFD2 and SD2 libraries.


To Update to this new version from an existing installation of SDSE:
- extract the new version in your current SDSE folder, overwrite all files (your configuration won't be overwritten)
- if you only made change to the main configuration in SDSE.ini,
   you can delete the other SDSE_*.ini files from your folder (SDSE_Shrink.ini, SDSE_Zones.ini, SDSE_SD.ini, SDSE_AD.ini). They will be recreated next time you run SDSE.
- if you made changes to SDSE_Shrink.ini,
   move your SDSE_Shrink.ini to another folder, run SDSE to create a new version of this file then copy your settings to the new file.
- if you update from 1.2 you can safely remove all three Superior Drummer 2 path settings from SDSE.ini
- if you have an old installation of SDSE with a single configuration file you can delete all sections of SDSE.ini after "Parameters".
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd and .dkit in 1 click
Post by: Jman on February 12, 2013, 02:00:23 AM
Thanks for your hard work on this version Lustar! Besides adding BFD2 support you have really refined the program to work smoother with SD2 and AD. It keeps getting better and better!  :patbat2box:
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: Pedro Fernandez on February 19, 2013, 02:26:06 AM
I don't know if it's ok to ask this question in this post but as an happy SDSE user I gonna do it. :)

Anybody knows if it's possible to extract from a BFD2 or SD2 snare only one articulation of this snare?
I just want the Sidestick (SD2) or SS (BFD2) sound to assign it to my snare rim!
Thanks for any help!
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: Lustar on February 19, 2013, 11:55:49 AM
SDSE 1.4 will have improvements to make it easier, but here's a quick way to do it for SD2 with the current version:

Open Reaper and the SDSE project, don't change any kit setting.

In Reaper, click on the "SNARE 1 RIM" region at the top of the screen, then
- press shift+9 to decrease the MIDI note
- press shift+0 to increase the MIDI note
the "Pitch" value is the MIDI note for that region.

change it to:
33 for Edge or Left
37 for Sidestick
68 for Muted
71 for Rim only

then export the snare as usual with "All" or "F1"
You'll get a Snare with the Center on Head and the sound you chose on Rim.

If you'd just like to export the Sidestick to the Rim, delete the SNARE1 region from the Region/Marker Manager (click on SNARE 1, press del), then adjust the pitch of "SNARE1 RIM" to 37.

You can also delete the "SNARE1 RIM" region and adjust "SNARE1" to 33 to export the Edge as Head.

Once you have a setting you'd like to use later you can save the Reaper Project as "SDSE_snarestick.rpp" to be able to quickly export snares like this another time. The project file must start with SDSE.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: tower of p on February 19, 2013, 10:27:59 PM
I tried this using the "Rim only"-Sound as Rimsound of the dsnd (instead of the "Rimshot" sound), but it was no real improvement in my opinion, because the rimonly-sound is far too silent to be heard when you actually play a rimshot.

Yet it is a good option if you want to use sidestick, or the muted snaresound in sd2.

thanks a lot to you, lustar, for all those great improvements you constantly add to sdse!
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: Lustar on February 24, 2013, 11:44:08 AM
SDSE 1.4.0 is now available.

New features include an add-on to the DrumIt Five Editor (http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php?topic=1667), a new setting to choose the Snare Rim sound to be exported from all supported VST and support for the new Superior Drummer EZX.

(http://lustark.com/images/DrumIt_Five_Editor_SDSE.gif)

The DrumIt Five Editor add-on allows you to set different pad layouts which is useful for people who split their toms to add more pads or use a custom setup.
Edit SDSE_DrumItFive.ini to your preference, when SDSE and the DrumIt Five Editor are both open you will get a personalized view.
Click on one of the numbered buttons to switch to one of the four layouts. The current layout setting is also used by SDSE to build .dkit files using your custom pad layout.
more details here (http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php?topic=1667)

Here is the list of changes since 1.3.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: beppedrum on February 25, 2013, 11:20:15 AM
I created with SDSE, dnsd files of high quality!!
Unfortunately, I have the problem that I can only create files of ride and hi-hat
I can't generate a snare, kick or toms (SDSE don't run)!
Where I'm wrong?
Thanks in advance
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: Lustar on February 25, 2013, 11:18:13 PM
While Beppedrum's case is being investigated, SDSE 1.4.1 is now available with tiny pads for the DrumIt Five add-on.

Changelog:
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: beppedrum on February 26, 2013, 11:32:03 AM
I'm really impressed with the after-sales service, which provides Lustar
 He is precise and quick response and also very helpful
 I recommend everyone SDSE!  :rock:
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: Lustar on February 27, 2013, 09:22:56 PM
SDSE 1.4.3 is out,
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: beppedrum on February 28, 2013, 07:46:21 AM
Now SDSE in really PERFECT!  :rock:
Thanks Lustar
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: digitalDrummer on March 01, 2013, 12:26:50 AM
Quick question for anyone using this with a Mac and virtualised Windows: if I were to instal Windows using Parallels or similar, would I have to reinstall all my VSTs and Reaper in Windows or could SDSE access the Mac versions?
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: Lustar on March 01, 2013, 01:14:05 AM
What you would need for sure is Reaper for Windows and the Windows versions of the VST programs.

Then, it may be possible to share the folders where you have already installed the sounds if they are the same on Mac and Windows. If the sound libraries are exactly the same and the folder can be shared (you may have to move the sounds to an external drive formatted as FAT32 or NTFS or install HFS drivers on Windows) you would just need to install Reaper and the programs for SD2/BFD2/AD (without the sound libraries) then set the path to your shared folder with the sound libraries in each of those VSTs.

To use SDSE on a virtual Windows it will certainly not work with something like the Unity view of VMware Fusion but it should work with a single window or full screen mode. Another solution is to use Bootcamp if it's available on your Mac.


Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: digitalDrummer on March 01, 2013, 01:22:29 AM
Thanks for that. I was hoping to avoid installing everything again and have duplicates on the same computer, so I think I'll just have to find a Windows machine!!
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: fishmonkey on March 01, 2013, 07:46:40 AM
you don't need a Windows machine.

as Lustar says, you should be able to just install the plug-ins and point them to your existing sample folders. this would definitely work with Parallels, which gives you access to your Mac filesystem in Windows. i'm pretty sure Fusion would have the same kind of thing.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: roel on March 01, 2013, 06:03:28 PM
Jman you tested a lot of sample packs on your 2box module, wich one you think are the best sample packs to have?

Do you have some video demo's from your latest samples?
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: Jman on March 01, 2013, 07:53:54 PM
Jman you tested a lot of sample packs on your 2box module, wich one you think are the best sample packs to have?

Do you have some video demo's from your latest samples?
My personal favorites: My favorite snares have come from the original SD2 pack.... I love the Black Beauty, GMS Maple Ash and the GMS NirZ snares .... SD2 Metal Foundry ... it has a huge number of drums, Sonors I think are my favs. BFD 2 is great even without expansions IMO, I still prefer the Vistalite kits I built from BFD2 the best of all Vistalites I've tried and that goes for several Vistalite kits I have from other packs. There are only 3 Vlite toms in the original but it is easy to get more out of it.... I use 5 toms and tuned up the highest tom and tuned down the lowest tom to get the 2 additional tom sounds. Evil Drums also excellent IMO especially the Pork Pie drums.
BFD2 ..... The Zildjian Gen16 sample packs, definitely my favorite cymbals.

Those would be my top I think. After that .... BFD2 .... John Emrich's Yamaha kits are very nice and I just got the JEX kit and like that one too. John's has sticks, brushes (or rods Oak kit) and mallets in his kits.
SD2 Roots .... nice jazz kit IMO ... more raw/unprocessed sounding kit from Superior.

I haven't done much as far as new video demos for a while, and do have more new kits like the JEX kit most recently, but I do have demos up on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/user/JmanWord?feature=mhum
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: roel on March 01, 2013, 08:38:47 PM
My personal favorites: My favorite snares have come from the original SD2 pack.... I love the Black Beauty, GMS Maple Ash and the GMS NirZ snares .... SD2 Metal Foundry ... it has a huge number of drums, Sonors I think are my favs. BFD 2 is great even without expansions IMO, I still prefer the Vistalite kits I built from BFD2 the best of all Vistalites I've tried and that goes for several Vistalite kits I have from other packs. There are only 3 Vlite toms in the original but it is easy to get more out of it.... I use 5 toms and tuned up the highest tom and tuned down the lowest tom to get the 2 additional tom sounds. Evil Drums also excellent IMO especially the Pork Pie drums.
BFD2 ..... The Zildjian Gen16 sample packs, definitely my favorite cymbals.

Those would be my top I think. After that .... BFD2 .... John Emrich's Yamaha kits are very nice and I just got the JEX kit and like that one too. John's has sticks, brushes (or rods Oak kit) and mallets in his kits.
SD2 Roots .... nice jazz kit IMO ... more raw/unprocessed sounding kit from Superior.

I haven't done much as far as new video demos for a while, and do have more new kits like the JEX kit most recently, but I do have demos up on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/user/JmanWord?feature=mhum

Thanx for the information.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: BURNIN AMBITION on March 05, 2013, 10:12:09 AM
since i am preparing for the buying of sdse next week (when i get paid) id like to ask some more final questions
actually id just like to ask if we can get support for these vsts for bfd
percussion expansion

too tired to think of other questions, ill stay to this question. cant wait to start using sdse. will also have new ssd drive for windows and i already have 8 giga of ram in my pc. the procedure will be fun!! thank you mate



Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: Lustar on March 05, 2013, 05:51:45 PM
The Percussion pack is already supported actually, it just wasn't in the list :)
You can export from BFD2 expansion packs that are not listed as supported with the current SDSE version but you won't get the corrected instrument names.

If anyone wants support for more packs please send me a message and I'll add them.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: BURNIN AMBITION on March 05, 2013, 06:23:00 PM
ok cheers mate!!!
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: beppedrum on March 08, 2013, 10:42:34 PM
When you create dnsd files from BFD2  what the ambience  parameters are setting you, normally?

OH send?
Room send?
Amb3 send?
I like "dry" sounds, and you?
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: Lustar on March 10, 2013, 05:09:59 PM
You'll probably want to lower those channels. There's a topic on the FXpansion forums about it here (http://www.fxpansion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=78307&sid=16c4335c76f1b60e4ecbfad2345ea551)
I'm sorry that I can't help you much more but I'm also interested if anyone has tips about good BFD2 settings.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: beppedrum on March 10, 2013, 06:43:30 PM
waiting for Jman  :rock:
thanks Lustar!
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: Jman on March 10, 2013, 07:33:59 PM
When you create dnsd files from BFD2  what the ambience  parameters are setting you, normally?

OH send?
Room send?
Amb3 send?
I like "dry" sounds, and you?
This would be a good topic for a separate thread, since the variations you can create are seemingly endless. Besides the parameters you list which are on your Kit page within the mixer there are tons of choices. If you just load your instruments with the orig SDSE Reaper file you are starting with a kit without a lot of processing. Generally without adjusting anything I think you get a pretty nice sounding drum to start with. If you raise the direct mics or just leave the direct mics as is while lowering OH, Amb, and Room you will here the dif of a more direct sounding instrument... my best advice would be to just listen and play with the settings. Another thing that is very useful to me is the BFD Presets. If you click on the Load button in the top right corner and then load BFD2 presets you should see a lot of different choices there. Presets are included with the BFD kits and many of the expansions .... for example if you had the Peart pack you will see several preset choices. One of the advantages to the presets is it gives you a reference as far as what was done and added in the mixer section to attain that sound. One of my favorite, almost over the top kits I play a lot is the Vistalite kit I built from BFD2 original pack using the Full on Hvy Rock presets from the DW kit substituting the Vlite toms, kick ... adding Z Digital Vault cymbals with the Artist JM room 1 preset ......... Massive sound....
Like I say your choices are almost limitless. Before buying any expansions to BFD2 I started playing with different versions of the stock kits ..... and you can go on, and on with just that. You do get a huge amount of instruments to work with in BFD2 without adding anything else ... For myself I find the cymbals a bit lacking though mainly because I like the choice of having 3 zones .... there are a few cymbals in BFD2 with bell, bow and edge, but adding the Zildjian Digital Vault cymbal packs is one of the best add ons early IMO, because those cymbals shine, and have Bell, Bow, Edge, sticks, brushes, rods, mallets .... great pack IMO ...  J
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: beppedrum on March 13, 2013, 09:48:14 AM
thanks Jman!

to Lustar: do you think it's possible to add an option like this:
when, for example, you generate a file of snares, able to generate all snares together?
thanks for your answer
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: Lustar on March 13, 2013, 10:25:38 PM
It's a good idea beppedrum, I worked on this tonight. I hope I understood your request correctly.
With the next version you will be able to start exporting in batch, allowing to export all instruments for a single kit piece, in addition to the current way which is to export from one piece to a whole kit at once.
You'll be able to export all BFD2 snares (or kick, cymbal or any other slot) from a BFD2 sound pack in a single step. It only works for BFD2 for now and I'll look at adding it for Addictive, but it won't be available for SD2.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: BURNIN AMBITION on March 13, 2013, 11:47:04 PM
this is a great feauture. cause it will save us too much time. i could be able to make all snares in a single step!!!
how does it work? does it create all snares from a certain path in our pc? cause for instane i have 2 expansions in the same windows path. will it make snares from both expansions at once or will it make the snares in 2 steps (because i have 2 expansions)? anyway, this is excellent. i wish it could be available for all vst.especially sd...

also, another question. lets say i extract this way, all snares all toms etc from bfd. and i have them saved in folders named like in 2box brain (snares, toms etc). when i load a new kit (which of course will have snares toms etc from the ones i already have converted), will it just created the kit dsnd file, or will it create again also snares toms etc? and if it createsagain snares etc, will they be exactly the same files, so i could overwrite the ones already created? thank you so much. cant wait for my hdds to come from usa and me starting creating dsdnds! cheers
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: beppedrum on March 14, 2013, 08:01:26 AM
It's a good idea beppedrum, I worked on this tonight. I hope I understood your request correctly.
Oh yes!
I do all the snare together, then the toms etc.
an automatic procedure would be very useful
Lustar thanks!
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: BURNIN AMBITION on March 14, 2013, 10:16:33 AM
an automatic procedure would be amazing. with one click having all sounds in files ready to be transfered!! well said!!!! of course i dunno if it can be done, and the program is great how it is and i dont want to sound like a spoiled kid always wanting more, so i will say just a big " thank you lustar for everything" and leave it at this!! thank you
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: Lustar on March 14, 2013, 11:47:30 PM
Burnin Ambition:
If you set the kit with a Snare and start batch mode, it will export the snare you selected and all the other snares for the same BFD2 expansion pack. To export all Snares from another expansion pack you would have to select the first Snare from that other pack and start batch mode.
I don't think it will be possible to do it for SD2, but it will probably be possible for AD.

About .dkit files, they are only created when you export a kit. Exporting from batch mode won't create the .dkit files. It would be interesting to be able to generate a matching .dkit for any given VST kit, and not only when we export a full kit to .dsnd from a VST or when we build a full kit to .dsnd/.dkit directly from .wav.

If you export kit pieces twice the existing files won't be overwritten, the new file won't be moved to a "Snares SD2" subfolder.

About batch mode, I think it will be more interesting when you decide to change a setting and update all your Snares, or if you don't want to export all kits but still want all Snares and all Kicks. If you plan on exporting full kits exporting a kit at a time may be a better idea.

beppedrum:
I'll check that everything works this weekend and hope to get the new version out next week.

Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: BURNIN AMBITION on March 15, 2013, 02:23:46 AM
thank you for the info mate. so i will have to use the first snare of the pack right? but how do i know which one is the first snare? since when i choose snares, they are all in the same page. if i use for instance the third snare, will te program create alla snares but the first 2? i dont complain of course, i just ask so that i know how to create thedsnds.

also when i create a whole kit, if i understood well, the whole kits dsnds will be recreated but in another folder right? that is cool. all i need to know is if snares created separately, and snares created through the whole kit option, will have same file name. if so it is great cause once i create the whole kit, i can keep the dkit and delete theinstrument dsnds, since i will have already created them when i export all snares etc. (provided they have same name)!! thank you so much my friend. cant wait to start converting
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: Jman on March 15, 2013, 02:45:21 AM
Another great added feature! ..... I was thinking today how spoiled I am by SDSE .... I had a thousand steps in my brain on how to build dsnds one at a time manually before SDSE was available .... and now I'm so spoiled with this one click solution I doubt if I would even remember all the steps to do it manually ....  :) Plus, I wouldn't even want to do it the old way anymore! J
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: Lustar on March 15, 2013, 07:14:13 PM
Burnin:
You can select a kit piece by right clicking on any BFD2 slot and selecting "kit pieces". Then you have a list of all your expansion packs, and all available pieces for each pack. I find it easier and faster than browsing for pieces using the other view with all pieces on one page.
Yes, if you start with the third, it will do all the next ones.
The filenames will be the same, and by default they are sorted in subfolder which I find it easier to manage. By using a folder for each VST you can also see right away if your looking at a SD2 Snare or a BFD2 Snare when browsing for a snare on the small module screen.
I'll look at adding a way to create .dkit files without exporting a whole kit for cases when you just need the .dkit file, so you absolutely won't need to export twice.

Thanks for the kind words Jman. I started working on another tool that I hope will be useful, I'll send you a mail soon ;)
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: Murgen on March 15, 2013, 11:03:29 PM
It works! Rendering as we speak. Converting the Vistalite. Gonna be an interesting weekend! Thanx Lustar for the great support! I will keep ya posted about the results.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: BURNIN AMBITION on March 16, 2013, 02:01:56 AM
never right clicked on the kits. i only did left clicks. thats whay i didnt knwo that. thanx my friend so much!!!!
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: Lustar on March 19, 2013, 10:27:07 PM
SDSE 1.4.4 is now available.

This version introduces a new batch mode for BFD2 and Addictive Drums.
In addition to being able to export a full kit in one click you can now export all available instruments for a single kit piece.
If you just begin exporting sounds from your VSTs doing one kit at a time is probably a better idea.
If you feel like you need to upgrade all of your Kicks or Snares because you found a better setting, or just want all Kicks and Snares from all of your sound libraries without necessarily having all toms, this new batch mode allows you to do it even faster than before.

To start exporting a kit piece in batch mode: set up a single kit piece in BFD2 or Addictive Drums then press Shift+F1.
BFD2: Batch Export will stop when all remaining pieces have been exported for the current sound pack. To export all instruments from a sound pack  right click on a kit slot and select the first piece.
Addictive Drums: Batch Export will stop when all pieces have been exported for all sound packs. You can start exporting from anywhere in the list. The list is looped and it will stop when all instruments have been exported.

.dkit files can now be created without existing .dsnd files.
With previous versions a matching .dkit was created when exporting a VST kit to .dsnd (F1 key or "All" button) or when building a .dkit from .dsnd files (F3 key or ".dsnd" button).
It is now possible to set a kit in one of the supported VSTs and press F4 to generate a matching .dkit, without exporting to .dsnd or building from .dsnd.

Here is the list of changes since 1.4.0.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: BURNIN AMBITION on March 19, 2013, 11:01:12 PM
what can i say about this guy!! he is a true god thank you lustar!!!
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: beppedrum on March 20, 2013, 09:06:36 AM
Thanks Lustar
it was exactly what I had asked you!
Now SDSE is really perfect
You are simply GREAT! :rock:
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: HiHat on March 20, 2013, 10:53:48 PM
Hi. I've watched this thread with some interest and would love to see Ezdrummer on the list :)  I have the percussion expansion pack and would like to import some of those sounds. It would be great if that were possible and I'm  sure others would also be interested too. The sounds on the 2box are good but limited.
Hatul
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: Jman on March 20, 2013, 11:44:01 PM
Hi. I've watched this thread with some interest and would love to see Ezdrummer on the list :)  I have the percussion expansion pack and would like to import some of those sounds. It would be great if that were possible and I'm  sure others would also be interested too. The sounds on the 2box are good but limited.
Hatul
Do you have Superior Drummer 2? Because the EZdrummer Drum packs are already supported if you have SD2. I just checked the EZ Percussion and did 10 of the instruments in it in one click. It does appear the SDSE Reaper file would need some tweaking though for one click support. AS I say you can one click and get about 10 of the instruments into dsnds now, but it would need some work. EZ percussion is quite different than your typical Drum kit so I assume it would require quite a bit of tweaking if Lustar decided to work that one into the program. At present you still could use SDSE to create all your dsnds from EZX Percussion, but you would prolly need to do some MIDI note changes. That is explained in the SDSE read me file ... J
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: Lustar on March 21, 2013, 12:39:14 AM
Hi Hatul,
As Jman said you can already export many EZX (EZDrummer) packs with SDSE if you have Superior Drummer 2. SDSE supports all SDX packs at the moment, but it doesn't support all of the EZX (look at the first post for a list). For the unsupported EZX I added as many kit pieces as possible with the current version so you can still export some pieces. Those EZX have unusual configurations so adding support for them means doing an exception for just one EZX that may not be interesting to many 2Box users. Now that at least one person requested it I'll look into adding a more complete support for the Percussion EZX :)

SDSE is updated to 1.4.5, with a small but interesting fix.
On some computers with UAC enabled it was possible that SDSE couldn't detect the path of your SDX or EZX if it wasn't installed in the default folder. You can now put the folder for an SDX or EZX anywhere, set its path in the Superior Drummer Settings and SDSE will detect it correctly.

Changes since 1.4.4
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: Lustar on March 23, 2013, 09:21:10 PM
SDSE 1.4.6 is now available.
It didn't take a lot of days, but it took a lot of hours... ;)
This version adds support for all remaining EZX packs including Latin Percussion.
SDSE 1.4.6 supports all available SDX and EZX packs released by Toontrack so far.

To upgrade from a previous version:
- extract the new version in your current SDSE folder, overwrite all files (your configuration won't be overwritten)
- delete SDSE_Shrink.ini and SDSE_Zones.ini

Changelog since 1.4.5:



SDSE 1.4.7 fixes a mapping issue that affected Latin Percussion and an issue with detecting the EZX path.
If SDSE doesn't find your EZX pack when you export, go to the Superior Drummer 2 Settings page and check that your EZX is listed in the "Library" list.
If your EZX is not listed in the list of Libraries, click on "Add path to library", browse to the folder that contains your EZX pack (starts with "EZX_") and select the "Sounds" folder inside it.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: BURNIN AMBITION on March 27, 2013, 02:06:27 AM
just bought sdse!!! thank you lustar. will post my opinions etc (of course it will be great), after i manage to clone my operation hdd to my new ssd. it is giving me hell and i am angry. hopefully by next week i will have everything set up to start creating dsnds!!!
and i have some other suprise i will also share with you in this awesome forum, but i am waiting for the right time. until then take care lads!!!!
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: giusfre on March 27, 2013, 07:57:02 AM
Great tool and great man! Lustar help me a lot to make everithing works fine! Thanks
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: Murgen on March 27, 2013, 02:10:06 PM
Same here! Spread the word, Lustar is our God!  :rock:
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: edcito on April 01, 2013, 07:29:20 PM
I just did my first dsnd's with the software but it took 1 1/2 hours to complete and had a lot of midi.wav files so I ended up with a 25GB folder! What did I do wrong? I used evil drums in windows 7 32 bit.

And according to the read me file, we have to deactivate the humanize functions and set the mapping to default, why is this necessary?

Also, I have some mixer presets saved as combined presets, do I have to load a default preset when exporting or can I use my own mixer preset?
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: Lustar on April 01, 2013, 07:44:19 PM
It means SDSE couldn't detect your VST so it exported everything (but this shouldn't be the behaviour of recent SDSE versions).

Humanize settings in SD2 don't help at all to export samples, at least that's my opinion (it adds permanent randomness to the resulting .dsnd). In SDSE 1.5 you won't have to check this at all, it will automatically disable all Humanize settings.
You only have to set the mapping to default if you changed it previously, if you never changed this you don't need to touch it.

You can use any preset you'd like when exporting, what is set in SD2 is what will be exported. To export dry sounds I'd recommend building a kit with the Construct menu.

I'm sending a mail to find out what went wrong.

Edit:
Result of the investigations: it seems to have been a one-off issue, problem apparently solved :) The next version of SDSE will have a small improvement to avoid all .wav files to be created if it ever happens again.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, BFD2 and Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: Lustar on April 03, 2013, 08:12:18 PM
SDSE 1.5 is now available.

It is now possible to export from EZdrummer and all the libraries it supports.
Superior Drummer is not required anymore to export from EZX libraries.
If you have both Superior and EZdrummer you may prefer to use EZdrummer to export EZX libraries because it loads them a bit faster than Superior.

The names of the .dsnd folders now include the sound library.
When SDSE exports to .dsnd it sorts them in subfolders named using the instrument type and the short name for the current VST.
If you copy those folders on your SD card using the same flat structure you can browse all of your .dsnd in one movement (turning a knob).
Starting with 1.5 the short name for the sound library is added to the folder name: "Cymbal Crash SD2NY" for Superior Drummer 2 Avatar.
This makes it even easier to manage .dsnd from different libraries on your SD card since they are already sorted in folders.
It also makes it easier to find pieces from a particular sound library on the DrumIt Five screen since the folder name appears on its own line (the .dsnd filenames also include the library short name as a suffix but this information is often hidden on the DrumIt Five screen because the filename is bigger than 16 characters).
Set "Sort .dsnd in subfolders: Add Library Short Name=0" in SDSE.ini if you only want the VST name to be added to the folder name: "Cymbal Crash SD2".

To upgrade from a previous version:
- delete SDSE_Shrink.ini, SDSE_AD.ini, SDSE_BFD.ini, SDSE_SD.ini and SDSE_Zones.ini from your current SDSE folder
- extract the new version in your current SDSE folder, overwrite all files (your configuration won't be overwritten)


The price for the full version has increased to reflect all the changes since the first release.
If you contacted me in the past about SDSE but didn't get a license because you waited to be set up to get started please send me a message.


Changelog since 1.4.7:
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: edcito on April 04, 2013, 06:54:06 PM
Works like a charm now! Thanks a lot for the support lustar!
Now I just want to ask how to export xdrums also? They weren't exported.... do I have to modify some settings in the .ini file?
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: Lustar on April 04, 2013, 07:16:21 PM
For Superior Drummer 2 x-drums are exported like any other part but you have to make sure they are set to the default MIDI note for that part and that the same part is enabled in the kit. When you add an x-drum to quickly set its mapping use "MIDI > Steal Default". You can also use x-drums as layers and in this case the result is what will be exported, as long as the kit piece is enabled in the main kit.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: roel on April 16, 2013, 07:00:37 PM
I  got SDSE 1.5 and it works! what a great tool! now I can make those great sounding kits that I always wanted.
THANK YOU LUSTAR!
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: Jman on April 16, 2013, 08:19:24 PM
I  got SDSE 1.5 and it works! what a great tool! now I can make those great sounding kits that I always wanted.
THANK YOU LUSTAR!

Cool, congrats Roel. Building those high quality VST dsnds will give you new drumming inspiration for sure and insight into what the powerful 2Box module is capable of ... J
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: roel on April 17, 2013, 05:40:28 AM
Cool, congrats Roel. Building those high quality VST dsnds will give you new drumming inspiration for sure and insight into what the powerful 2Box module is capable of ... J

Thank you, yesterday I convert all the EZ Drummer Expansion Packs. SDSE 1.5 works perfect!
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: Lundin on April 17, 2013, 01:51:33 PM
Hello all
I began converting all my expansions for Superior drummer yesterday with SDSE 1.5 and after a little mental "settling in issue", brainwise (I haven't used it in a while) This little program works so well and it's waaaay to cheap for what time it saves ;)

@ Lustar: Sometimes sounds doesn't get converted into a .dsnd evn though i use "All" from SDSE even though they're sampled to disc and i see the wavefiles showing up in the library.

Why is this? Is it a setting in the Reaper project that excludes some files from being converted?

Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: Lustar on April 18, 2013, 05:33:50 AM
Sorry, I didn't see your message sooner (for some reason I didn't receive a mail alert from the forum).

If you notice leftover .wav files after SDSE has completed its task they are most likely extra Hats articulations that couldn't be used. Most SDX have less articulations than the maximum allowed in a .dsnd, but some have a little bit more. When exporting Hats SDSE makes some adjustments like reducing the amount of articulations, expanding them to even out bow/edge, preferring bow sounds to bell sounds when both are available. When there are too many articulations to fit a .dsnd it will use as much as possible and won't delete the unused .wav files (you can safely delete them if you don't need them). There are settings in SDSE.ini to fine tune all of this or if you'd like to export two versions of some Hats, one with bow/edge and another with bell/edge, or one version with tight sounds and another without.
Hopefully this is what you noticed, if not please send me a mail and I'll make sure to look into it.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: Jman on April 20, 2013, 10:51:59 PM
I'm still amazed with SDSE. I was just screwing around today thinking about building a variation of a kit from AD with bigger room effects. I opened up SDSE folder, started everything up and within just a few minutes I had a brand new .dsnd kit complete. Great job Lustar.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: tower of p on April 25, 2013, 10:55:12 AM
Hi Lustar!
Would it be possible to add drumasonic 2 some day? sorry if the answer to this question has already been posted somewhere...

Also I would like to know if there is anything new on the mac-osx front? sdse works just fine with win7 installed via bootcamp, nevertheless it would be great to have it all in 1 opsys... (I would not hesitate to pay again for a mac-version).

all the best from the german coast
Lutz
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: Lustar on April 25, 2013, 05:23:11 PM
Hi,
It may be added. Don't worry, you were the first person to ask on the forum.
I'm sorry for Mac users but there are no plan for a Mac version in the immediate future. It would take a lot of time and the current priority is to add support for more VST. I'll definitely look at it though.
The next version of SDSE is coming soon :)
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Addictive to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1 click
Post by: eyerichards on April 29, 2013, 08:45:59 AM
Purchased SDSE and Drumasonic 2 today as well as a brand new laptop to run it on. Talk about G.A.S. ha ha!
SDSE Support for Drumasonic 2 in the near future would be mucho appreciated Lustar.
Cheers  :rock:
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, AD to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on April 29, 2013, 09:48:07 PM
SDSE 1.6 is now available.

It is now possible to export from BFD Eco and the libraries it supports.
BFD Eco uses the same sound engine as BFD2 and is compatible with most BFD2 libraries including Zildjian Digital Vault.

SDSE 1.6 is easier to install, with steps during Installation. SDSE will also adjust and set up Reaper for you if needed.

To upgrade from a previous version:
- delete SDSE_BFD.ini from your current SDSE folder
- extract the new version in your current SDSE folder, overwrite all files (your settings are safe)

Changelog since 1.5:
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, AD to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1-click
Post by: raptor on April 30, 2013, 01:51:01 AM
 :) Thank you Lustar for getting me strait with SDSE and Eco. Having fun with the program until my Jobeky's and 2box module arrive.
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, AD to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on May 05, 2013, 06:39:55 PM
I'm glad to report that Drumasonic support is coming, very soon :)
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, AD to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1-click
Post by: eyerichards on May 05, 2013, 10:37:52 PM
I'm glad to report that Drumasonic support is coming, very soon :)


WOO HOO  ;D  Awesome Lustar ! you just made my day.
Cheers !
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, AD to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on May 09, 2013, 05:05:05 PM
SDSE 1.7 is now available.

It brings support for Drumasonic 2, Drumasonic Luxury and EZdrummer Lite.

EZdrummer Lite is free this month, make sure to pick it up on toontrack.com (http://www.toontrack.com/products.asp?item=24) to get the Cocktail EZX for free!

To export from Drumasonic you will need to install Kontakt 5 or the free Kontakt 5 Player.
To avoid getting cut samples when rendering from Drumasonic, go to the Reaper Preferences (CTRL+P), scroll to Plugins/VST, check "Inform plug-ins of offline rendering state", click "Apply".

To upgrade from 1.6:
- delete SDSE_Zones.ini from your current SDSE folder
- extract the new version in your current SDSE folder, overwrite all files (your settings are safe)

Changelog since 1.6:
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, AD to .wav .dsnd .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Jman on May 11, 2013, 01:51:46 PM
Great job again Lustar! Another extremely useful version with Drumasonic support added, very useful indeed, thanks J
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Noakser on May 16, 2013, 11:57:25 AM
Hi all,
first of all I'd like to thank Lustar for supporting my initial issues with getting Superior Drummer working right with SDSE, your level of service has been excellent! Secondly I'd like to thank you for developing this software. Now I have a question, which I don't think has been asked or answered so far, if it has apologies for repeating. I have recently purchased the 2box module, intention being to use samples converted from Superior Drummer 2 and also wav files that I have been triggering via a TD12 and SPD-S up until now. I use a variety of differnt types of pads to trigger the sounds from Roland to the old Simmons SDS9 pads (play in an 80's tribute) and use real cymbals live and Gen16s to practice. So what I want to do is when using SDSE, load up the kit pieces in SD (kick, snare and toms) and export them as a kit. Currently they export as the sounds into the relevant folders but I'm not getting a .dkit file corresponding to the files. How do I create the .dkit file for the dsnd files I create from SD? Is this something which may be included in a new release of SDSE? Again apologies if a:this has been asked already or b:it's really obvious and I'm an ass!  ;)  :rock:
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: raptor on May 16, 2013, 02:07:59 PM
I believe you you still need to select each .dsnd file for each component into a kit, then save the newly created drum kit as a complete .dkit file.
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on May 16, 2013, 05:33:22 PM
Hi Noakser,
SDSE generates a .dkit when you export at least 3 kit pieces at once. You should find the .dkit files in the destination path, in the folder that contains the dsnd folders. They are named using the sound library short name and tom information. If you export the default kit from Avatar the filename is "SD2NY GMS Coated Heads.dkit".
Please send me a message if you don't get any .dkit file at all when you export at least 3 pieces using "All" of F1.

You can also create .dkit files without exporting to .wav or .dsnd. To generate a .dkit for any kit loaded in SD2 or another supported VST, load a kit then press F4.
This is useful when you export from different kits that share a lot of instruments when you know that you already have the .dsnd, if you used the Batch mode with BFD2 or Addictive Drums to export all pieces and need .dkit files to go with them, or if you ever need to generate those files again.

.dkit files generated by SDSE are "single kit" files, to load them in the DrumIt Five Editor you need to select "import single kit".
To load a single kit in the DrumIt Five Editor, you ned to open a kit bank first (the one that comes with the module is named DrumIt.dkit), and have all your .dsnd in the same path as this kit bank (same folder, or subfolders of the kit bank).
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: stickcharmer on May 20, 2013, 12:56:24 AM
are there a good set of instructions I can follow for this? Ive read what comes with SDSE and its not providing me results. I open SDSE, Reaper project, dsoundtool and superior drummer. When I select all, SDSE tells me there is nothing to render. Looking at reaper, it says "the following effect plugin could not be loaded: VSTi (Superior Drummer 2)." Does this mean reaper is not recognizing SD?
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: beppedrum on May 20, 2013, 10:10:43 AM
I think that's a typical path's problem
Please check the plugins path
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on May 20, 2013, 10:21:58 AM
The message suggests that Reaper couldn't load Superior at all, was Superior Drummer loaded in Reaper at any point when you tried? Superior needs to be loaded in Reaper, not running as a standalone program. If you are on 64-bit Windows and use the 64-bit version of Reaper you'll need to install Superior with the small installer that is available on their website to get the 64-bit version of Superior. You may also want to to check that Reaper knows where to find your VST plugins (press CTRL+P in Reaper, scroll down to VST/Plugins and check the path).
You don't need to open DSoundTool before exporting, you just need to copy dsoundtool.jar in the SDSE folder.
Once you see Superior in Reaper, use the Construct menu to set up a kit (I'd recommend disabling all pieces with "none" then enabling just one kit piece for your first try) then click "All".
I'm sending you a message now with more instructions.
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Jman on May 20, 2013, 02:33:33 PM
are there a good set of instructions I can follow for this? Ive read what comes with SDSE and its not providing me results. I open SDSE, Reaper project, dsoundtool and superior drummer. When I select all, SDSE tells me there is nothing to render. Looking at reaper, it says "the following effect plugin could not be loaded: VSTi (Superior Drummer 2)." Does this mean reaper is not recognizing SD?
Yes it means Reaper does not have SD2 loaded. In the left column of Reaper at the bottom there are ADD and Remove tabs. Click the Add tab. In the popup window look at All Plugins, click the VSTi category and see if Superior Drummer 2 shows up. If not check the VST category. If you find it highlight it an press OK. If not you can go to the Options category at the menu in Reaper, Preferences, VST and paths, Auto Detect. If you still have problems you can manually add SD2 by finding the path.... for example: C:\Program Files\VstPlugins64;C:\Program Files\Toontrack\Toontrack solo
and typing or pasting that into your slot by the ADD window and adding the path. 


Edit .... looks like I was typing at the same time as Lustar. He'll get you on the right path :)
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: stickcharmer on May 20, 2013, 03:17:58 PM
this pops up when I start reaper:

The following effects were in the project file and are not available. REAPER will keep their configurations, but things may not sound as desired.

   Track 1: VSTi: Superior Drummer 2 (Toontrack) (32 out)
   Track 1: VSTi: EZdrummer (Toontrack) (16 out)
   Track 1: VSTi: BFD2 (FXpansion) (32 out)
   Track 1: VSTi: BFD Eco (FXpansion) (22 out)
   Track 1: VSTi: Addictive Drums (XLN Audio) (16 out)
   Track 1: VSTi: Kontakt 5 (Native Instruments GmbH) (16 out)
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on May 20, 2013, 03:37:16 PM
It means Reaper couldn't load any of those VST instruments supported by SDSE. You just need to set up the path to your VST plugins in Reaper. Press CTRL+P in Reaper to open Preferences, scroll down to VST/Plugins, click "Add" and browse to your VST path (most likely C:\Program Files\VstPlugins). The next version of SDSE I've been working on this weekend will make it easier (it will configure Reaper so you won't have to).
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: stickcharmer on May 20, 2013, 03:43:53 PM
Thanks again. Ill look into this and see. perhaps a reinstall of SD is needed. Ive set the path but keep getting the same issues. It does not appear in reaper. Could it perhaps be that I have not purchased a license for reaper? I have mine for SDSE, btw.
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: stickcharmer on May 20, 2013, 04:21:10 PM
Well its getting me further, but stopping at:

"Couldnt read temporary SDSE preset."
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on May 20, 2013, 05:33:29 PM
You should not need to reinstall Superior, unless you need the 64-bit version. The evaluation version of Reaper is complete so that can't be the problem.
Please send me a mail (in my profile or the contact form on lustark.com), I'm sure we'll get it working in no time :)
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: stickcharmer on May 20, 2013, 07:39:55 PM
msg sent. Thanks again
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Dr.Skins on May 21, 2013, 10:31:10 AM
Is there a mac version of SDSE?
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on May 21, 2013, 05:17:02 PM
There isn't. The best way to use SDSE if you don't have a PC at hand is to use Windows with Boot Camp or in a virtual machine on your Mac. Else, a small netbook with at least 1GB of RAM can be enough to export.
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Dr.Skins on May 22, 2013, 06:26:34 AM
Oh ok I have a hp laptop kicking around here with 4GB of RAM needs a new HDD uhg. I been trying to just connect my mac to my module and run ssd4 on reaper but I'm a noob when it comes to the Edrum scene.
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: stickcharmer on May 24, 2013, 06:36:55 PM
One quick thing, and I remind you all that I am new to this, but does it seem as though the dsnds from SD are sounding a little thin from the 2box. They sound right where I want them in SD, I run SDSE and load into 2box and then they sound off from the originals. Im using the same headphones to monitor SD as I do on my 2box. Perhaps more eq tweaking in Reaper before I transfer them?
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on May 24, 2013, 07:32:50 PM
It's a very good question and I'm also interested into what others think about this. As far as I know the consensus seems to be that any .wav file converted to .dsnd does sound a little different than it does on a computer. To test it you can extract the .wav from a .dsnd you exported and play it using Audacity or a similar tool. It will most likely sound a bit different than the .dsnd played with the module. There could be several reasons for this and I suspect they can add up.
- it's possible that increasing the volume of the pads in the UNIT settings results in a sound that is a bit closer to what you hear on the computer.
- it's possible that the module adds its own EQ.
- it's possible that the default EQ in SD2 is quite different from the one used for stock 2box .dsnd (so playing your own .dsnd after a stock .dsnd could make it appear darker or brighter).
- the source could also make a difference. When listening through headphones, if you plug the headphones directly on the module it's possible that it doesn't sound the same as the same headphones plugged in a headphone amplifier (it could even sound worse on the computer).
A good solution is to tweak the EQ in the VST before exporting. You can export several versions of the same toms and use the "Preset" field in SDSE to append something to the .dsnd filenames like EQ1, EQ2. Another solution would be to have a different SD card for sounds from a particular VST and use different EQ settings on the module itself.
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: tower of p on May 24, 2013, 07:57:31 PM
There isn't. The best way to use SDSE if you don't have a PC at hand is to use Windows with Boot Camp or in a virtual machine on your Mac. Else, a small netbook with at least 1GB of RAM can be enough to export.

hey pals,

does anyone have experience with using sdse on a mac via parallels? does it work as good as in bootcamp?

cheers,
lutz
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: stickcharmer on May 24, 2013, 08:13:24 PM
Do you know if SDSE reads the eq on single instruments or channel 1/2 out? Trying to decide if I should add an eq on the out and "bass" is up a little.
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Jman on May 25, 2013, 01:23:17 AM
Do you know if SDSE reads the eq on single instruments or channel 1/2 out? Trying to decide if I should add an eq on the out and "bass" is up a little.
The (L/R) Master Outs in Reaper is what is being recorded. You are recording each instrument individually, but whatever additional channels and effects are included with the instrument in the Mixer section of your VST that are being channeled through the Master Outs determines the final instrument sound. That includes different mics, like direct mics and overhead mics, Amb, effects like verb etc.. I would suggest panning the individual instruments (I like to pan everything center and later pan it the way I want in the module). Listen to the Master Outs before recording, and make whatever EQ changes you want via the individual instruments.... If you change the Master EQ .... you will be changing the EQ for everything. Check the presets in SD, BFD, or any of the VSTs .... I would suggest trying out some dif presets, like default, dry, Roomy, Rock, etc... see what is useful to you....

Edit: my suggestion above pertains to all the VSTs .... specific in SD2 in the mixer section if you try out the individual instruments you'll see the channels that are included and the slider adjustments for the channels that are moving their VU meters that shape the final instrument sound going to the Master Outs in Reaper.
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: espen on May 25, 2013, 07:18:28 AM
One quick thing, and I remind you all that I am new to this, but does it seem as though the dsnds from SD are sounding a little thin from the 2box. They sound right where I want them in SD, I run SDSE and load into 2box and then they sound off from the originals. Im using the same headphones to monitor SD as I do on my 2box. Perhaps more eq tweaking in Reaper before I transfer them?

I think thiks is the same topic we discussed at the beginning of this year: http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php?topic=1598.msg14639#msg14639

To me it's clearly audible that there is a difference. I've noticed that some vsts suffer from it more than others. I've tested Addictive Drums (almost all ADPaks), EZDrummer (several EZXs), Steven Slate Drums 4, Studio Drummer, and Drumasonic (all three). AD has the biggest problems on this IMO. I think something happen during the conversion from wav to dsnd, or the outputs of the module suck a bit.

By the way, I haven't used SDSE. I've done all manually with Reaper, DSoundTool and 2Box Sound Editor.
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: KevH on May 31, 2013, 06:08:21 AM
Having finally got around to looking into this part of things, I have to thank you for the software. I haven't tried it yet, but it looks like this is going to be awesome.  :patbat2box:
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: logihack on June 03, 2013, 04:22:57 PM
At first I must tell, that I'm really amazed with this software and even if I have module connected with audio card all the time, I'm playing just with the sounds from module.
 I also noticed big difference when doing dsnd file from Ad library. I don't know why, but it sounds thin, so i work just with SD+evil drums, even if I have ad and retro, funk, reel machines. I tried and didn't like how it sounds and plays. In my case I even had to raise the gain, to achieve the same feeling, or playability, compared to Sd.
 So what should I buy next? Which drum library is the most versatile?  I'm between ssd4, Drumasonic and another toontrack product.
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Jman on June 03, 2013, 09:47:38 PM
At first I must tell, that I'm really amazed with this software and even if I have module connected with audio card all the time, I'm playing just with the sounds from module.
 I also noticed big difference when doing dsnd file from Ad library. I don't know why, but it sounds thin, so i work just with SD+evil drums, even if I have ad and retro, funk, reel machines. I tried and didn't like how it sounds and plays. In my case I even had to raise the gain, to achieve the same feeling, or playability, compared to Sd.
 So what should I buy next? Which drum library is the most versatile?  I'm between ssd4, Drumasonic and another toontrack product.
Since you already have SD I would suggest adding Metal Foundry SDX (It is a great pack IMO) very versatile pack and tons of instruments on it .... Audio Deluxe has promo pricing right now and it is only $83 .... or $153 for 2 SDX expansions. If you are not registered at Audio Deluxe simply register and you will get the special pricing:
http://audiodeluxe.com/
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: logihack on June 11, 2013, 02:41:52 PM
Thanks Jman... I was thinking in that direction, about metal foundry.  So I'll l buy two packs  :)  :rock:
And which pack is the most '' popish ''?  I have just rock oriented drums now. SD, evil drums and now MF. Music City maybe?  But again, i heard, that Classic and vintage, is one of the best sd packs.
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Jman on June 11, 2013, 06:21:24 PM
Thanks Jman... I was thinking in that direction, about metal foundry.  So I'll l buy two packs  :)  :rock:
And which pack is the most '' popish ''?  I have just rock oriented drums now. SD, evil drums and now MF. Music City maybe?  But again, i heard, that Classic and vintage, is one of the best sd packs.
Yeah for Pop, I guess both of those packs fit pretty well. Don't be fooled though Metal Foundry is a very versatile pack definitely not just for Metal, the name of that pack can fool you.
Pros and Cons of Music City and Classic and Vintage:

Classic and Vintage has a lot more choices of instruments, and kits; 4 dif kits, 20 snares, 6 kicks, 20 total toms, 7 Hi Hats (but not as many transitions as I like), lots of cymbals. But the cymbals are all single zone except 3 zones on Rides.

Music City has 2 small kits, 5 snares, 5 kicks, a total of 5 toms between 2 kits which means 3 toms on one kit, 2 toms on the other, decent amount of cymbals and 1 Hi Hat, but the HH has more transitions than C&V hats. The big plus at least for me on Music City is the fact that all cymbals are multi zones, so the crashes have Bell, Bow  and Edge.

So if 3 zone crashes is something you use or like, Music City is one of the SD packs that has that. Roots also has that.
Superior Drummer already has a few great HH's in the Avatar basic pack, I use those a lot. And Metal Foundry has several great hats, Evil Drums too .... so you won't have to worry much about hats whichever other pack you add.

My favorite cymbals are in the Zildjian Digital Vault, excellent cymbals with all multiple zones for everything, and great Hi Hats too. Unfortunately you would need a BFD program for those .... Eco is real cheap right now, but not sure if you can utilize full functionality of the Zildjian packs, someone using Eco would know. J
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: fulrmr on June 12, 2013, 02:55:34 AM
I have some questions......can one mix and match from all these different VSTs to build a kit even though some are BFD...while others are SDXs? I know...noob question for sure but I have not built any of my own yet and I'll have 6 toms....and 14 cymbals. Can one make 6 toms from a single VST kit even though it only comes with 3 or 4 toms?

I just got rid of all my Roland gear but I still have that "tweaking" mentality. ;)
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: fishmonkey on June 12, 2013, 03:10:41 AM
once you've rendered the sounds down to DSND format, you can mix and match the kit pieces however you like...
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: fulrmr on June 12, 2013, 03:24:16 AM
once you've rendered the sounds down to DSND format, you can mix and match the kit pieces however you like...

Cool...I like the sound of that...pardon the pun.  ;)
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Jman on June 12, 2013, 03:24:36 AM
And yes, you have a huge amount of mixing capabilities in most VSTs, so you can tweak toms to make convincing toms of dif sizes than the original sample .... like 8" out of 10", 18" from a 16" tom .... etc. etc. Since I have 5 toms on my kit I've built 5 toms out of almost every VST kit I own and 6 toms out of some. There are also some large kits like Billy Cobham or Neal Peart's for BFD that have 7 or 8 toms already. SD Metal Foundry has 5 toms already for a few of the kits and the Tama Imperial Star has something like 8 or 9 toms (although the Tama kit is one of my least favorite sounding kits).
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: fulrmr on June 14, 2013, 01:49:14 AM
And yes, you have a huge amount of mixing capabilities in most VSTs, so you can tweak toms to make convincing toms of dif sizes than the original sample .... like 8" out of 10", 18" from a 16" tom .... etc. etc. Since I have 5 toms on my kit I've built 5 toms out of almost every VST kit I own and 6 toms out of some. There are also some large kits like Billy Cobham or Neal Peart's for BFD that have 7 or 8 toms already. SD Metal Foundry has 5 toms already for a few of the kits and the Tama Imperial Star has something like 8 or 9 toms (although the Tama kit is one of my least favorite sounding kits).

Cool. Thanks. Ok...another question. My PC is a Vista64 box(service pack2)/AMD 9750 Quad Core 2.4GHz/8G RAM/430G space/7200rpmHD. It already has S2.0/Reaper...will this program(and any others I need) run on it without upgrading? Not only do I not want to loose my files...I have lots of programs on this PC  I don't want to chance losing even though it says that an "Upgrade" to Win7 will not delete my files or programs...I don't think I believe it...nor do I want to chance it if it's not necessary. Besides...budget it always a concern.

EDIT: Ok I see that SDSE can be used with Vista....thanks. :)
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on June 14, 2013, 05:07:42 PM
64-bit is perfect for DSoundTool on Windows (just make sure to install the 64-bit version of Java JRE) and 8GB of RAM is more than enough. If your system works fine you absolutely don't need to update to export to .dsnd.
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Jman on June 14, 2013, 07:16:44 PM
One thing to consider up the road Daniel, at least IMO .... another external USB Hard Drive .... while 480GB seems like a lot, if you are like me (and I know you are  ;) ) you will run out of space when you start adding more VSTs or VST expansion packs, plus storing of module backups, new dsnds you build, etc ... It adds up pretty quick. I originally started adding 1TB add on external Hard Drive .... then went 2TB .... 3TB recently  ;D
When it is possible I put the sound samples of the VSTs on my external Hard Drive instead of taking up valuable space on the C drive. When I installed Addictive Drums the whole program could only be installed on the main drive ... not sure if that has changed recently, but the other VSTs I have all samples on the external drives.
It is nice to set this up like this early since it saves transferring huge amounts of data from drive to drive in the future. 
J
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: milojko on June 14, 2013, 07:54:10 PM
And I thought I was extreme with 1.5GB of samples  :D
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Progdrummer on June 14, 2013, 09:48:02 PM
What sound library would you suggest for some metal/rock playalong and to improve the original 2Box cymbals sounds (which are pretty weak imho, maybe the only real flaw of this magnificent kit)?

And, even if Im sure this question has already been answered, how do I expand my 2Box module memory (without having to delete the original sounds, if possible)?

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on June 14, 2013, 10:36:03 PM
SD2 has several Metal packs like Metal Foundry. I like Music City to play along Rock, it's just two simple kits without a lot of pieces but it feels and sounds right and you get 3 zone cymbals. If you have BFD2 or BFD Eco you can get Zildjian Digital Vault for cymbals.

Replacing the 4GB of memory by 32GB is really easy, you can find the guide here (http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php?topic=991.0). You'll have to make sure to get a compatible SD card (topic here (http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php?topic=1136.0)) and copy all files to the new card. You can get the extender cable you'll need and a compatible SD card here (http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php?topic=1445.0).
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Progdrummer on June 14, 2013, 10:46:52 PM
Perfect, thanks a lot Lustar. Now I just need to purchase your SDSE software and I'm ready to tweak my module :) My goal would be to achieve at least 4 complete drumkits to cover each genre I use to play (rock/metal/funk/80s stuff).
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on June 17, 2013, 05:42:53 PM
SDSE 1.7.3 is now available.

This versions improves the way Reaper is configured by SDSE to make it even easier to get started. Most first time users won't even have to set the Audio device or VST plugins path in Reaper.
On Windows 64-bit SDSE checks your VST plugins path setting and fixes it as needed to make sure only the correct versions of your VST plugins are loaded.
The Region Manager is also configured to be more convenient.

To upgrade from 1.7:
- delete SDSE_Shrink.ini and SDSE_SD.ini from your current SDSE folder
- extract the new version in your current SDSE folder, overwrite all files (your configuration won't be overwritten)

Changelog since 1.7:
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: fulrmr on June 18, 2013, 02:28:50 AM
Excellent. This will be mine tomorrow when I get back to my kit. Thanks. :)
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: tower of p on June 18, 2013, 12:06:03 PM
Great work, thanks a lot once more!  :animal:
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: edcito on June 26, 2013, 08:32:22 PM
I upgraded to 1.7.3 and now I'm getting the error "Couldn't read SD2 kit information". :'(
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on June 26, 2013, 09:31:47 PM
edcito: I sent you a message, we'll figure it out.

SDSE 1.7.4 is coming soon, with more improvements for notebook screens.

In other news, BFD Eco (http://www.fxpansion.com/index.php?page=103) is currently on sale at -60% on fxpansion.com until the end of the month, it's a good deal for those looking at the Zildjian Digital Vault pack.
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: rcprod on July 01, 2013, 02:11:07 PM
Sorry if this question has been answered somewhere within the first 14 pages.

What is the price for the full non-demo version of SDSE?

Thanks.
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on July 01, 2013, 02:20:52 PM
It's on the top/right of the SDSE page here (http://lustark.com/sdse)



SDSE 1.7.5 is now available.

This version improves Reaper configuration for small screens. Exporting is now fully supported on resolutions as low as 800x600.

To upgrade from 1.7.3:
- extract the new version in your current SDSE folder, overwrite all files (your configuration won't be overwritten)

Changelog since 1.7.3:
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: milojko on July 02, 2013, 05:36:53 PM
Is it only me or it gets prevented by the antivirus to install?
I'm using Avast and it reports it as a threat ...
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Murgen on July 02, 2013, 05:46:15 PM
Lustar explained it is an alert hard to avoid but caused by required functionality for the software.
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on July 02, 2013, 05:59:23 PM
Yes, I'm afraid there's not much we can do about that, most anti virus programs use a "guilty until proven innocent" approach that can be scary to the user.
Avast treats any program it doesn't know as suspicious so it will probably do that once when you upgrade to a new SDSE version. SDSE may be run in a sandbox or scanned by Avast the first time you launch it. If it happens, click "continue execution". The next time you start SDSE Avast should let it run.
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Jman on July 20, 2013, 05:58:39 AM
Just to let you know.... On version 1.7.5 I finally got around to opening and testing this version. I can't get past the Checking Reaper stage, it goes into a stall at that point and I have to exit. Exiting is a little tricky too. Even after clicking cntrl, alt, dlt it is pretty tricky to get out of the hazed orange screen.... The task manager keeps disappearing behind the other windows and I have to do a bit of bob and weave to get out of the program.... as you know I'm on Win8 64Bit. No problems at all with the former 1.7.3 though for me.

By the way I installed the new Senheiser DrumMicA free drum VST pack that runs in Kontakt player 5. Sounds seem pretty decent. Not sure about the mapping and such for SDSE, I managed to build a Kick, Toms and Snare. Mapping is not lined up with any of the other supported VSTs so far for dsnds with SDSE from what I see. Kick and Toms yes, Snare head yes but not rim .... Just thought I'd mention it since it is free, in case you decided to check it out.
 J
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on July 20, 2013, 02:16:30 PM
Thanks for telling me about this Jman. To exit SDSE at any time press CTRL+ALT+DEL, it will open a Windows screen with options, then press ESC a couple times to get out of this screen and close SDSE, it should exit right away. I'll look into reproducing and fixing the stalling issue today.
I'll also look at DrumMiCa, it's downloading right now :)

Edit:
Jman has confirmed that the problem is fixed in the current version of SDSE. If you don't have this particular issue there is no need to update.
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Dr.Skins on July 22, 2013, 10:45:46 PM
Please make a Mac version of SDSE.  ;D
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: digitalDrummer on July 22, 2013, 10:47:27 PM
Please make a Mac version of SDSE.  ;D
You're not the first to ask for this.... ;D
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Dr.Skins on July 23, 2013, 06:57:15 PM
I know Mac users are like the red headed stepchild of the computer world lol. ;D
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on July 23, 2013, 08:58:26 PM
Running Windows on a recent Mac is really much easier than one would think, and can be done for free.

All it takes is installing Virtualbox then installing Windows in VirtualBox. Once installed your virtual Windows will start fast any time you need it because it will resume were you left off last time.

Here's how to run Windows 8 for free on your Mac:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2016057/how-to-test-drive-windows-8-for-free-in-virtualbox.html

another guide:
http://www.guidingtech.com/6329/running-windows-7-on-mac-os-x-together-virtualbox
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: digitalDrummer on July 23, 2013, 11:54:13 PM
Running Windows on a recent Mac is really much easier than one would think, and can be done for free.

Thanks for the heads-up about running Windows on our Macs. That, however, is only part of the issue. To use SDSE, we would also have to install Reaper plus all our VSTs in Windows as well.
I understand that this is a labour of love for you and that you're trying to find solutions for the Windows-averse, but clearly a dedicated Mac app would be ideal. Of course, I'm not sure there's enough demand to warrant the investment in time and effort - so maybe any really interested potential buyers can chime in.
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: miha on July 24, 2013, 02:14:38 PM
I´ll be the first to buy if a Mac version is made :)
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: tower of p on July 24, 2013, 02:18:57 PM
... we would also have to install Reaper plus all our VSTs in Windows as well.

yes, but only the programs, it´s possible to share the soundbanks (in sd2 at least).

anyhow, I´ll definitely be among the first who will buy the mac version when it´s out (if so at all).

cheers,
L
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on July 24, 2013, 09:21:58 PM
digitalDrummer, I would like to see it happen as much as you do. I would love to see many more people requesting a Mac version.

Here's a recap of the steps requireds to run SDSE on a Mac, in case more Mac users like tower of p would like to try it:
- use Boot Camp (free), or install VirtualBox (free) or install Parallels.
- install Windows - can be free if you have an old license or install the evaluation of Windows 8
- install SDSE and Reaper (needs to be installed on Windows either way)
- install your drum VSTs in Windows (it should be possible to share the sound files, tower of p did it with Superior Drummer 2)
It will take a bit of time depending on how many drum VSTs you have but it's nothing compared to the time you'll save using SDSE to export your drum sounds.

The topic poll is now "Would you be interested in a Mac version of SDSE" :)
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: digitalDrummer on July 24, 2013, 11:35:21 PM
I´ll be the first to buy if a Mac version is made :)
Miha, you'll be the second. My order has been in for some time!
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: fishmonkey on July 25, 2013, 02:37:28 AM
i'll buy 2 copies of the Mac version if it helps get it developed! maybe even 3!
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: digitalDrummer on July 25, 2013, 03:15:30 AM
So that's six copies, but only one vote!
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: miha on July 25, 2013, 09:38:40 AM
Yeah, that´s two copies for me as well, if that will make it happen. And a vote :rock:
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: tower of p on July 25, 2013, 12:49:27 PM
...or install Parallels...

Tip of the day: Don´t buy parallels immediately. It´s cheaper if you first try the evaluation version (2 weeks for free). After the evaluation period extends, you get a "special offer" email from parallels, so you can get it for about 55 € instead of 79 €.

cheers,
Lutz
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Dr.Skins on July 25, 2013, 05:41:13 PM
I'd buy one for double the price of a windows version. ;D
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Dr.Skins on July 27, 2013, 08:21:20 PM
Or get in contact with some of the major vst makers and 2box and develop samples made exclusively for the drumit5 merge efforts ,maybe make it so you can use usb drives for storing and using the samples kinda like sound card upgrades like roland has for their modules. :animal:
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Jman on July 27, 2013, 09:01:51 PM
Or get in contact with some of the major vst makers and 2box and develop samples made exclusively for the drumit5 merge efforts ,maybe make it so you can use usb drives for storing and using the samples kinda like sound card upgrades like roland has for their modules. :animal:
None of the VST companies have done special 2Box dsnd files or kits for the 2Box module yet (and there has been plenty of communication behind the scenes). But as far as sound card upgrades like Roland ... we don't need em. Everything is already stored on an internal SDHC card in the 2Box module. Making the card accessible from outside the module is the option many of us have taken.
http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php?topic=991.0
Last time I counted I have at least 20 ea. 32GB cards for my two 2Box modules ... filled with VST drums from SD2, BFD2, Addictive drums, Steven Slate Drums, Drumasonic, along with every stock 2Box dsnd/kit already in the module or extra on the website....   that I can simply change out and use .... about 7 seconds to change cards and load all new sounds if desired. All sounds/cards backed up on the PC ..... yeah, we don't need to pay for a Roland type expansion.

Eventually the various VST companies may see it as profitable to build dsnd packs for 2Box, but personally it makes no dif to me as I can build my own in a matter of minutes from any VST pack using SDSE.
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: edcito on July 28, 2013, 11:01:55 AM
Holy crap! 20 cards? That's a lot! I just have one with my favorite 5 kits so far from SD2: Evil Drums, The Classic, Metal Mania along with 2 mixer presets :-)
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Jman on July 28, 2013, 08:34:05 PM
Holy crap! 20 cards? That's a lot! I just have one with my favorite 5 kits so far from SD2: Evil Drums, The Classic, Metal Mania along with 2 mixer presets :-)
I'm sure I could put together one card with just the Top 10 or 20 VST kits I prefer though ....  I was just emphasizing how easy it is to add or change the entire content of the module via SDHC card once the card is accessible via the external card slot. And no limit really as to how many new sounds or kits you can have. This is presently by far my favorite edrum module to date! The open sound source of the 2Box module is the best IMO .... meaning we don't have to be at the mercy of other companies to sell us new expansions.
Title: Re: SDSE: Superior, EZdrummer, BFD2, Eco, Drumasonic, AD to wav dsnd dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on August 12, 2013, 05:05:38 PM
SDSE 1.8 is now available.

It brings support for the Native Instruments Abbey Road Drummer series, Studio Drummer and Sennheiser DrumMicA. A total of 16 new kits are supported:
DrumMicA is free, get it here (http://de-de.sennheiser.com/service-support/drummica)

As usual all instrument names have been checked so that your new .dsnd/.dkit files can be copied immediately to a DrumIt Five module.

The Native Instruments and DrumMicA VSTs don't include a way to select kit pieces so SDSE 1.8 features a new add-on system. If the VST requires it SDSE displays check boxes to let you select the pieces you wish to export. The Native Instruments drummer series does include alternate snares, to export them select them in the VST just like you would select a kit piece in any other supported VST.

To upgrade from 1.7 or 1.7.5:
- delete SDSE_Shrink.ini and SDSE_SD.ini from your current SDSE folder
- extract the new version in your current SDSE folder, overwrite all files (your configuration won't be overwritten)

Changelog since 1.7.5:
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Jman on August 12, 2013, 05:44:07 PM
The addition of support for Sennheiser, DrumMicA (free download) makes this a great way for 2Box owners that want to add some new VST drums and cymbals if they do not already own a VST library. Great work again Lustar! The latest version is very nice indeed. J
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: edcito on August 12, 2013, 08:42:26 PM
Cool, thanks for the update! It's worth noting that the only kit included in the drumica is a Wuhan Kit made in Germany  :patbat2box:
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Dr.Skins on August 14, 2013, 01:31:53 AM
Mac version leading in the poles.  ;D
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: tower of p on August 14, 2013, 01:52:06 PM
Hi Lustar, thanks for the update!

Question: is there a feature to disable superior drummer´s panning automatically? I see the "nopanning.s20" file in my sdse folder, but can´t figure out how to...

thanks and best regards,
Lutz
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Murgen on August 14, 2013, 03:19:58 PM
O dear, I keep lagging in updates. Can we agree on a 6-month cycle, you are driving me mad!  :o
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on August 16, 2013, 09:07:26 AM
Question: is there a feature to disable superior drummer´s panning automatically?
Hi tower of p, the nopanning.s20 file is not part of SDSE actually. To export without panning the best way would be to save projects in SD2 with all pannings set to center and load them before exporting. Another way is to enable the "mono" setting in SDSE.ini, it will convert the sounds to mono before converting to .dsnd and you will then be able to set the panning with the module.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: tower of p on August 16, 2013, 10:17:02 AM
Hi tower of p, the nopanning.s20 file is not part of SDSE actually. To export without panning the best way would be to save projects in SD2 with all pannings set to center and load them before exporting. Another way is to enable the "mono" setting in SDSE.ini, it will convert the sounds to mono before converting to .dsnd and you will then be able to set the panning with the module.

Hey lustar,
thanks man, saving a preset sounds obvious, don´t know why it didn´t come to my mind. Thanks!
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Dr.Skins on August 16, 2013, 10:20:46 PM
None of the VST companies have done special 2Box dsnd files or kits for the 2Box module yet. Jman




Drumasonic did put some dsnd files out on the 2box website, do you know if they'll put out more?
 ;D
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: logihack on August 20, 2013, 10:19:34 AM
Today I purchased 3 ezx packs, for just 85usd(62€). I took  metal machine, rock solid and the classic. I figured it out that I like compressed sounds more, since I don't have time to mess around with the mixer, eq , etc. I also like some dsnd samples created from bfd eco. Anyone already tried to create dsnd files, from native instruments?
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: digitalDrummer on August 21, 2013, 08:10:54 AM


Drumasonic did put some dsnd files out on the 2box website, do you know if they'll put out more?
 ;D
I know that discussions have been opened and development work has been done.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Dr.Skins on August 21, 2013, 04:41:16 PM
Sounds good thank you.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: logihack on August 22, 2013, 05:32:54 AM
I have some issues with creating dsnd files from ezx. From some reason I can't convert cymbal samples. In rock solid there's no crashes, classic and metal machine are without ride cymbals. No problems with sd avatar, evil drums and bfd eco. The engine is superior , not ez drummer
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on August 22, 2013, 05:15:49 PM
Thanks for reporting this!

SDSE 1.8.1 (http://www.lustark.com/downloads) is now available.
This version fixes the cymbal issue described by logihack when exporting from some Superior Drummer and EZdrummer libraries.

To upgrade from 1.8:
- extract the new version in your current SDSE folder, overwrite all files (your configuration won't be overwritten)

Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: logihack on August 22, 2013, 05:57:27 PM
Everything is working fine now. And again, great support    :-* ;D
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Slinky on August 27, 2013, 05:38:32 PM
Hi Edrummers,
I'm hoping someone can help me.
I received my 2box module recently and have almost finished my A2E conversion. My problem now is getting my Slate Platinum kits, cymbals and drums into the 2box. I have already upgraded the 2box to use 32 gig cards but I can not figure out how to convert Slate to 2Box.  I read the post about using Reaper and SDSE but when I run themi dont see Slate nor can I figure out out to include it in the VST list.

Does anyone know how to do this?

Thanks
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on August 27, 2013, 05:53:17 PM
Hi Slinky,
Steven Slate Platinum is not yet supported by SDSE, you can see a list of all supported VSTs and their sound libraries in the first post of this topic.
For now you can export semi-manually using SDSE. Start SDSE, start Reaper, click on "Add" near the bottom/left of the Reaper Docker window, click on VSTi and add Steven Slate 4, load the "Superior" mapping in SSD4, open the Region Marker/Manager window in Reaper and check the toms you want to export, click "All" in SDSE or press F1. If you need more help please send me a PM or email.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Dr.Skins on September 28, 2013, 06:13:59 AM
Hello hows the mac version of SDSE coming along? ;D
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on September 29, 2013, 11:50:25 AM
Well it only exists as an idea so far but if it happens you'll be one of the first to know.
On the other hand, SDSE 1.9 is coming very soon :)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: BURNIN AMBITION on September 30, 2013, 12:06:57 AM
ive purchased since version 1.6, and still i havent found the time to export the dsnds lol. i am so lazy hahahaha. by the time i start creating dsnds perhaps versio 6,7 will be out. lol
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: fulrmr on September 30, 2013, 11:44:07 AM
ive purchased since version 1.6, and still i havent found the time to export the dsnds lol. i am so lazy hahahaha. by the time i start creating dsnds perhaps versio 6,7 will be out. lol

Same here ::) Seems once I finally got everything I about my kit the way I wanted it......there has not been any time to play whatsoever.  :'( I guess it will be there when things quiet down around here...and then I can get back into the groove.....but still kinda sucks. Sure does look nice though.  ;)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: BURNIN AMBITION on September 30, 2013, 11:02:37 PM
well i hope everyone understood that all i meant is that the only reason i havent started making dsnds is that it was summer, i was all day at the beach, and also i have no hdd space left in my pc lol. once i get paid (happy new month everyone), i will have to buy a new hdd (its crazy how i manage to fill all my hdds with crap), and finally will start to make all the dsnds i want from bfd2 and superior drummer. finally!!! cant wait
thank you lustar for the grreat effort you provide in making this awesome tool. i remember having to spend too much time to create the dsnds i created the hard way( around 50). now its time i make everything rom scratch , the professional way!!!! and in 1/20 of the time

lustar thank you once again!!!!
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on October 01, 2013, 06:23:52 PM
Thanks for the kind words Burnin' :)

SDSE 1.9 is now available.

This version adds support for Steven Slate Drums 4 Platinum, EX and Custom.

When batch converting your own WAV files to .dsnd without any VST (without Reaper and a VST) the DSND files are now named using any text present in the WAV filename instead of the instrument type.
Examples of valid WAV filenames and the resulting DSND filenames:
instrument type: "KICK1.wav"
-> "kick1.dsnd"
instrument type - instrument name: "SNARE1 - Instrument.wav" + "SNARE1 RIM - Instrument.wav"
-> "Instrument.dsnd"
instrument name - instrument type - comment: "Instrument - KICK1 - Comment.wav"
-> "Instrument Comment.dsnd"

To upgrade from 1.8 or 1.8.1:
- delete SDSE_shrink.ini, SDSE_SD.ini and SDSE_AD.ini from your current SDSE folder
- extract the new version in your current SDSE folder, overwrite all files (your configuration won't be overwritten)

Changelog since 1.8.1:
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on October 05, 2013, 07:04:43 PM
SDSE 1.9.1 (http://www.lustark.com/downloads) is available.

It fixes an issue when building hats that was introduced in 1.9 and affected exporting from Superior Drummer 2.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: BURNIN AMBITION on October 05, 2013, 07:45:18 PM
somethings not right cause i get a message
The recommended file was not found!

i am sure the download link will be fixed asap, but just wanted to let you know lustar!! cheers and thanx for everything you provide the 2box community with
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on October 05, 2013, 07:50:13 PM
Try again now, it should work.
Sometimes anti virus programs can (wrongly) block a download, maybe this is what happened.
If you use Firefox, you can try pressing shift when you click the Download button.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: BURNIN AMBITION on October 05, 2013, 08:18:31 PM
yep i know that my antivirus wrongly blocks the download link. i disabled it in the previous version od sdse and it worked fine. and now, it works fine again!!! thank you so much!!!
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on October 11, 2013, 10:40:07 PM
SDSE 1.9.3 (http://www.lustark.com/downloads) is available.

This is a bug fix release, you don't need to update if you don't have any issues.

To upgrade from 1.9 or 1.9.1:
- extract the new version in your current SDSE folder, overwrite all files (your configuration won't be overwritten)

Changelog since 1.9.1:
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on October 27, 2013, 07:36:20 PM
SDSE 1.9.5 (http://www.lustark.com/sdse) is available.

New installer and setup:
When you install SDSE everything you need to get started can be downloaded and configured for you.
SDSE can be installed in Standard (desktop icon, start menu shortcuts) or Portable mode (nothing written to registry).


Export modes:
VSTs and libraries that contain fewer samples are exported faster, to smaller .dsnd files.
SDSE can now use one of 3 export modes based on the VST or library:It's possible to override the default by changing "Export Mode" in SDSE.ini.
Forcing a smaller number of hits can be useful when testing several versions of a kit, to quickly try them on the module before exporting the final version using the best mode.


To upgrade from 1.9 or newer:
- if you never made any changes to SDSE.ini you can simply delete the old SDSE folder and install the new version.
- if you have made changes, install the new version and copy your configuration files from the previous SDSE folder.


Changelog since 1.9:

Here's how SDSE is installed.

(http://www.lustark.com/images/SDSE/SDSE_installer.gif)
1) installing SDSE


(http://www.lustark.com/images/SDSE/SDSE_setup.gif)
2) SDSE downloads and sets up everything for you.


Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Jman on October 27, 2013, 11:12:40 PM
Definitely the best version yet. Great improvements and ease of use with all components installed in one nice package. Thanks for all your hard work. J
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: BURNIN AMBITION on October 28, 2013, 08:48:40 AM
i have no words to say. lustar is a god!!! thank you so much mate
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: BURNIN AMBITION on October 28, 2013, 08:49:39 AM
btw i get an error message
The recommended file was not found!

Please inform your Webmaster!
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: StudioG4 on October 29, 2013, 06:31:03 AM
Not sure of the best place to ask this so I did it twice. Please forgive, I'm frustrated.

OK, I downloaded and installed the newest version of SDSE tonight and have the most current java on my win7 system. (I must say that I really have no feel for REAPER.)
I open the created REAPER and then SDSE and set BFD Eco as my VST.
Configure a kit to my liking and press "ALL".
Screen goes orange, I see some files open and close, the program says completed in 2 minutes 47 seconds. I check my desktop SDSE sounds folder and there is one file there -perc3.
Not what I expected. Tried it again and I get a wav file !ERROR-JNF ..... (the sample that is allocated to perc3).
I'm obviously doing something wrong, but what?
Can anyone help?
Also, how do I/where do I set the kit pieces I want to include in my DSNDs?
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on October 29, 2013, 09:21:51 AM
This is the best place to ask, but the best way is to contact me directly so I can help sooner.

Don't worry about REAPER, you don't have to use it at all, it's just the host.
When SDSE is installed in Standard mode, it should have opened REAPER for you with the SDSE project loaded into it. You don't have to set up a VST, just to select BFD Eco in the list.

With the evaluation version you can only export the Ludwig Black Oyster kit from BFD Eco, SDSE should have displayed a message about that and it shouldn't have taken more than a few seconds.

To export from one kit piece to a full kit from a supported drum VST, you set it in the VST then click "All". SDSE will detect what is currently loaded and export it.

It could be one of several things, I'll send you a PM and we'll figure it out.

Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Dr.Skins on October 30, 2013, 10:34:10 PM
Now that you've perfected the pc version maybe you should work on a Mac version. ;D
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: HumpieDrum on November 01, 2013, 01:24:21 AM
Yes please Lustar!
A Mac version :-\
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: StudioG4 on November 01, 2013, 04:21:09 AM
Lustar! Once again to the rescue. Thank-you for your individual attention and concern to my application issues. After spending some time with SDSE on my 32 bit system, I see that the memory limitation (with the hands on work by Lustar) is an issue. With my slim (memory wise) BFDeco, I can convert all the drums and cymbals into wav's with REAPER and SDSE, but the conversion into DSNDs using SDSE is problematic, attributed to the memory limitations of the 32bit app. I am able to use the DSOUND tool as a stand alone to convert the drum wav's to DSNDs, but the cymbals give me an "Out of memory" error due to their large file size. SDSE should do this automatically with little problem but the 32bit memory limitation and it's associated max. available memory of 3 gig (I have 8G available on board) caused the required Java to crash.
I will be installing a dedicated 2T hard drive with a clean 64 bit Win7 application as a dual boot for all my future music applications and am excited to "get busy".
My recommendation to all is that a 64 bit operating system is almost a necessity for access to max RAM memory and minimal headaches. SDSE is a very cool program that makes converting wav's to DSNDs for the 2box effortless.
Highly Recommended!
Thanks again Lustar!
Tony G
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on November 01, 2013, 07:27:48 AM
HumpieDrum, please vote on the topic poll to add your voice. There are also ways to run Windows on a Mac, it takes a bit of time but is easy to do, maybe that would be a solution for you.
(Dr.Skins, please don't vote twice ;))

Thanks for your follow up Tony. BFD eats more RAM than other VSTs so even though SDSE disables it to save memory before using DSoundTool it can be tricky on Windows 32-bit because of the Java limit (it's actually less than 1.5GB). In the latest work in progress I have added a way to make DSoundTool open for sure when memory could be an issue. I'll keep working on ways to minimize this potential issue for the next version.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on November 09, 2013, 12:22:24 PM
SDSE 1.9.6 (http://www.lustark.com/sdse) is available.

The most important change in this version is the lower memory requirements to convert to .dsnd.
Lack of memory shouldn't be an issue anymore as long as we have enough memory to load the kit in the VST.

More memory available to DSoundTool:
SDSE loads DSoundTool by telling Java to use as much RAM as possible then will retry with lower values if needed until DSoundTool can be started. This will ensure we have as much memory available to DSoundTool as the system can allow at that time.

Lowered risk of "out of memory" Java error:
When the available memory is lower than 3GB SDSE will remove silence in WAV files with SoX before sending them to DSoundTool. Converting the files takes a little bit longer on a system with less than 4GB of RAM but it greatly reduces the risk of running out of memory.


To upgrade from 1.9.5:
- install the new version (your configuration won't be overwritten)

Changelog since 1.9.5:
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Hockeylifer on November 12, 2013, 10:36:55 PM
Just have to give a shout out to Luster for not only creating a super useful tool but also for being so responsive to me and other members of this community.  To be sure, I purchased v. 1.9 the other night (I'm on the East Coast of the United States) and he sent me a license a few minutes later.  Holy Awesome service, batman!  What's more, I asked him a few questions via email - fully expecting an answer the next day (it was like 2:00 AM where he lives) and boom - a few minutes later he answered me.

Well, Thank you very much for the tool and dedication to making it work!!  And let's not forget Louis for kicking ass with DSoundTool.  It gave me an excuse to donate once again to the Jimmy Fund (Dana Faber Cancer Institute ib Boston).   Win - win!!

By the way, I have BFD2 and the kits I exported just using the raw sounds are jaw-dropping!  I shudder to think about buying BFD3 or a VST from another company.  JMan - any recommendations?

Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Jman on November 12, 2013, 11:06:20 PM
Just have to give a shout out to Luster for not only creating a super useful tool but also for being so responsive to me and other members of this community.  To be sure, I purchased v. 1.9 the other night (I'm on the East Coast of the United States) and he sent me a license a few minutes later.  Holy Awesome service, batman!  What's more, I asked him a few questions via email - fully expecting an answer the next day (it was like 2:00 AM where he lives) and boom - a few minutes later he answered me.

Well, Thank you very much for the tool and dedication to making it work!!  And let's not forget Louis for kicking ass with DSoundTool.  It gave me an excuse to donate once again to the Jimmy Fund (Dana Faber Cancer Institute ib Boston).   Win - win!!

By the way, I have BFD2 and the kits I exported just using the raw sounds are jaw-dropping!  I shudder to think about buying BFD3 or a VST from another company.  JMan - any recommendations?
I second the praises here! Lustar is busy again working on adding more functionality. While BFD3 is not supported in SDSE .... a birdie tells me it's comin ;)
Seriously though there are soooooo many good VSTs out there that translate directly to nice 2Box kits through SDSE it is really a question of what you like. To me most Superior Drummer packs put out a more studio processed type kit, BFD2/3 a more acoustic/raw sounding kit, although with all the mixer choices and effects in the software you can get about whatever you want. BFD2 ... Zildjian Digital Vault is a killer pack for nice cymbals with all the articulations, and the BFD3 cymbals are on the same scale and have all the articulations. Some VSTs have tom rimshots, some don't, some have just one sound for crashes, some have all 3 .... lots of different things to look at and concider ..... Some people love SSD4, Addictive Drums, Abbey Road, Drumasonic  ... those also produce nice 2Box kits. So, sky's the limit, choices abound, GAS never ends. Now I just have to talk myself out of picking up the new BFD2/Sonic Reality Nick Mason (Pink Floyd) kit..... I don't need it, I don't need it .... I really don't need it ........
I'll eventually loose that battle.  :'(
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: digitalDrummer on November 13, 2013, 01:27:28 AM
... Zildjian Digital Vault is a killer pack for nice cymbals with all the articulations, and the BFD3 cymbals are on the same scale and have all the articulations. Some VSTs have tom rimshots, some don't, some have just one sound for crashes, some have all 3 .... lots of different things to look at and concider ..... Some people love SSD4, Addictive Drums, Abbey Road, Drumasonic  ... those also produce nice 2Box kits.
And, of course, you have the ability to mix and match. If you want DS rim sounds on your BFD tom, no reason you can't do that. Prefer the Gen16 cymbals to those in Drumasonic, just swap them over.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Dr.Skins on November 13, 2013, 05:55:22 PM
Toontrack's Metal machine has one of the best sounding snare samples I've ever heard it's a tama bell brass snare. :rock:
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on November 23, 2013, 09:46:50 PM
SDSE 1.9.7 (http://www.lustark.com/downloads) is available.

This version adds support for Kontakt 5.3.0.
You don't need to update if you didn't experience the "nothing to render" issue when exporting from DrumMicA or the Native Instruments VSTs in Kontakt 5.3
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on December 10, 2013, 05:49:24 PM
SDSE 1.9.8 (http://www.lustark.com/sdse) is available.

To upgrade from 1.9.5 or newer:
- install the new version (your configuration won't be overwritten)

What's new:
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: sandman on December 21, 2013, 12:09:56 AM
I bought the SDSE software last night online. How long does it take to get the registration key?
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on December 21, 2013, 12:23:53 AM
I was just replying to your mail from a few minutes ago. It usually takes from a few minutes to a few hours depending on time zone differences. Your order arrived a 7:20AM and I sent the mail with the license 5 hours later (as soon as I could do it). The mail with the license must have been caught in a spam filter.
I haven't received a return receipt for the second mail so I'm sending you a PM here with the link.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: sandman on December 21, 2013, 03:17:36 AM
Thank you very much for the quick reply, Lustar. I got the file you sent and now am able to use the SDSE software. Great piece of software. Makes importing VST's so much easier. I give SDSE Two Thumbs Up!:rock: :rock:
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Murgen on January 02, 2014, 01:09:21 PM
Ahoy Lustar, I finally had time to upgrade to 1.98 and how nice to automatically trigger a full install of reaper with the proper settings. I just had to re-enter both the SDSE and Reaper license but that was easy. Created a new directory on my HD and running a fresh batch of BFD2.

Happy New Year!
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on January 02, 2014, 08:30:39 PM
Thanks for the kind words. Happy drummy new year! :)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: billgtx on January 04, 2014, 03:54:42 PM
Just purchased!  Have had a Roland TD-9 for about 3 years now.  Upgrading my module to the 2Box DrumIt 5 (it's on the way).  Getting prepared for the tinkering to come...  Thanks Lustar!
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on January 04, 2014, 04:03:56 PM
License sent ;) Make sure to get the latest OS update if it's not already installed, as well as the latest 1.2x manual from the 2Box website (http://2box.se/US/pages/downloads/)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: SaviDrums on February 01, 2014, 10:56:05 PM
I desperately want to see a SDSE for mac too please :)

The music industry is run on macs, every single studio I've ever worked in has macs. You won't find pro studio's using a PC, they are completely unreliable. Even all the guys I know who are just a little bit serious about their music uses a mac. Windows is a swear word, its one of the most unreliable platforms ever created. I will never go back to windows and certainly would never put it on a mac, that would be sacrilege ;)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: SaviDrums on February 08, 2014, 11:42:44 PM
Ok, so I've come round to setting up a virtual machine on my mac, I just can't bear the thought of not having access to this excellent software. Lustars pm to me was really good in changing my mind, props to Lustar!  :rock:
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on February 09, 2014, 12:04:43 AM
Thanks, don't hesitate to send me a mail if you need any help!
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: makoki on February 15, 2014, 11:45:57 PM
Hi guys, a crazy problem with SDSE. When try to go with to NI Studio Drummer, getting the answer "Can`t load NI preset". Haven't found the problem on the posts. Any help with that?

Thx in advance.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on February 15, 2014, 11:55:26 PM
Hi makoki,
If you have just installed Studio Drummer you may need to close REAPER and open it again so that Studio Drummer can find the SDSE mapping preset. It could also be a newer version of Studio Drummer.
Don't worry, we'll make it work, I'm sending you a mail :)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: makoki on February 16, 2014, 09:04:39 AM
thx!!
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: dj_porter on March 01, 2014, 06:31:06 PM
I have 2 problems with this software:
1) If I open a wav sample and try to make it multilayer the program is not doing nothing, do I need to buy it to make it works? in demo version have any function working?
2) I tried for 3 days to make XLN audio ad drums (I have the main vst plus 5 banks) and Reaper (Included with this software) is not recognizing ad drums vst , i tried everything, and nothing, change the dll location, rename the dll, put the installation folder inside reaper....nothing...zero
cheers
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on March 01, 2014, 06:52:52 PM
1) SDSE doesn't have a menu to open a wav sample, it's used to export pieces or full kits from a VST to wav or dsnd, to create .dkit files from a VST or to convert existing wav files to dsnd.
To convert your wav samples you don't need SDSE, you can use DSoundTool. SDSE can be used to convert many wav files to .dsnd using DSoundTool if you place your wav file in the "SDSE Sounds" folder and if you name it using one of the zone names found in the SDSE REAPER project (like kick1.wav). Place your wav files in the "SDSE Sounds" folder, make sure they are named using zone names (kick1.wav, snare1.wav + snare1 rim.wav), and click "dsnd". It will then use DSoundTool to convert your batch of wav files.

The evaluation version of SDSE has all of the features of the full version except that it's limited to exporting one default kit from each VST and can't export or convert cymbals and hats. Everything else is working including the DrumIt Five Editor add-on.

2) the most likely explanation would be if you're using Windows 64-bit but don't have the 64-bit version of Addictive Drums installed. With the evaluation of SDSE you can export the Kick, Snare and Toms from the Sonor Designer kit of Addictive Drums.

I'm sending you a PM with more information
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: dj_porter on March 01, 2014, 07:11:53 PM
I get (with superior drummer tucked in the list but the interfase closed) Reaper: set up regions to be rendered.
If I open the Superior drummer interface with a kit in it I get "Error : VST must match Reaper (32 or 64 Bit)

cheers
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on March 02, 2014, 02:59:05 PM
SDSE 2.0 (http://www.lustark.com/sdse) is available.

This version adds support for BFD3, configuration menus and duplicate sample removal.

(http://www.lustark.com/images/SDSE/SDSE_options.gif)
all default settings are recommended, you don't need to change anything to start exporting.


Duplicate samples can be removed to get smaller .dsnd with the same quality. In some cases we now have 1:1 export for some VSTs like BFD3, BFD2, BFD Eco, Superior Drummer 2 and EZdrummer.
It is now possible to set a maximum amount of samples for each instrument type when converting to .dsnd. If there are more samples than the limit after duplicates have been removed, more samples will be removed until it matches the limit.

Another improvement is the velocity curve setting:
- Vol 2Box Editor (default): same curve as the DrumIt Five Editor, based on sample volume, maintains sample order.
- VST: uses values from the VST, maintains sample order.
Set it to 2Box DR1-3 or VST DR1-3 for quieter softer hits (better dynamic range).
Disable it to let DSoundTool manage the velocities, based on sample volume.

The DrumIt Five Editor and DSoundTool sort samples by volume but it can result in what feels like a "rollercoaster" when samples are not sorted using their original order. This affects all VSTs and Addictive Drums, BFD3, BFD2, BFD Eco in particular. The new velocity curve setting always maintains the order of samples so there is a smooth progression in the tone of the sound from quiet to loud velocities. "Vol 2Box Editor" uses the same curve used by the DrumIt Five Editor, but will make exceptions to keep the order of samples.
"VST" matches what was played by the VST, with the samples in the correct order.

When exporting a Snare it is now possible to export all the extra articulations at once to separate .dsnd files (Snare Head+Rim and separate .dsnd for Snare Sidestick, Snare Edge). This will be useful for those who like to use more than two Snare articulations when playing, to easily assign a Sidestick sound to a side pad like the Roland BT-1, or to easily assign snare articulations to other snares without having to use a full .dsnd and selecting the rim zone on the module. It is also possible to export only the Snare head.

The names for the buttons have changed to be easier to understand:
All is now Export
wav is now Render
dsnd is now Convert

The first public version of SDSE was released over a year ago. Many thanks to all forum members and SDSE users for your feedback and support during this first year! :)

Here's a changelog summary since SDSE 1.0:
support for all major drum VSTs
support for small screens as low as 800x600
different export modes
duplicate samples removal
user-defined limits for each instrument type
.wav files are optimized before sending them to DSoundTool to avoid various issues
.dsnd velocities based on VST velocities
DSoundTool is launched using as much memory as the system will allow
DrumIt Five Editor add-on and configuration file to tell SDSE about a custom pad layout
installer with options to install and configure everything we need
configuration menus


To upgrade from a previous version of SDSE a fresh installation is recommended.

What's new:
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Murgen on March 02, 2014, 08:16:26 PM
  :rock: :rock: :rock: Lustar rocks!  :rock: :rock: :rock:
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Jman on March 03, 2014, 01:52:59 AM
Lustar really nailed it on this version. This is a Major rework of the program. Besides adding support for BFD3 .... now all the velocity layers match up with the actual samples contained in the VSTs and the velocity progression is without any roller coaster kind of spikes. Along with the other nice improvements this is definitely the best version yet.
Thanks for the great work Lustar!
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: drum-de on March 04, 2014, 12:39:20 PM
I would love to use SDSE for producing my own SD2.3-kits, BUT:
Only Original presets of the plugin can turned into dsnd-files. Including the panning, instruments etc. But my dsnd-files should'nt have a panning,...
I also get error messages telling me there is some clipping. I never figuered out how to avoid this.
Sometimes the program shows me tom2 is recordet. But when I open this particular dsnd-file it is a hihat, or a cowbell or a snare drum. How come?

Thank for helping!
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on March 04, 2014, 05:45:29 PM
Only Original presets of the plugin can turned into dsnd-files. Including the panning, instruments etc. But my dsnd-files should'nt have a panning,...
The kit that is set in the VST at the moment you click "Export" will be exported, with the current settings. It can be one kit piece or several pieces or a whole kit. It doesn't need to be one of the original presets or user preset or even to be saved first.

If you don't want to have the .dsnd files already panned you just have to remove the panning from Superior Drummer 2. Go to the Mixer tab and set pan to 0 for everything (optional: save the preset with a name ending with _center for future use).
Another solution is to check "convert to Mono" in the SDSE Options. This way you wouldn't need to set the panning to center, all kit pieces will be set converted to mono. The .dsnd files will still contain stereo .wav files but the sounds will be perfectly centered.

I also get error messages telling me there is some clipping. I never figuered out how to avoid this.
The message about clipping is there to warn you that the volume was too high. When SDSE detects that there was clipping, it aborts the rendering and displays this message: "Clipping: please reduce the volume and try again". The solution is to reduce the master volume in the VST or reaper, then try again. With SD2 this can only happen with some presets, or when loading a different SDX. When it occurs, save the preset with the correct volume so that it can be exported right away next time.

Sometimes the program shows me tom2 is recordet. But when I open this particular dsnd-file it is a hihat, or a cowbell or a snare drum. How come?
The SDSE mapping is based on SD2 so if you got a wrong sound the mapping must have been changed in SD2. If you have changed the mapping in Superior (to play through MIDI) make sure to set it back to Default before exporting.

Don't hesitate to send me a mail if you need more help!
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Jman on March 04, 2014, 06:32:47 PM
I would say user error is the most common problem with most programs and products in general.  ;)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: drum-de on March 04, 2014, 07:08:15 PM
 ;)

The problem is sitting in front of the computer. 

Unf. I did things alread like lustar describes. There may be a mistake by having the wrong midi-set - I will check.

But how come? Converting a preset works fine, after setting the pan to "0" it doesn't work (clipping-error, missing hits on toms,...)  I will try further and will tell how i solved the miracle.

I'am so interested in this SDSE-thing because the dsnd-file are much smaler than the ones I produced (very time consuming) with the first known method, using Louis Soundtool and Toontrack Solo.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on March 04, 2014, 08:36:15 PM
It's possible that setting the pan to 0 would increase the overall volume of some kit pieces, but in this case, reducing the master volume in SD2 will always work to avoid clipping.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: drum-de on March 05, 2014, 01:19:36 PM
Dear fellows, everything became so clear -I needed just one hint from you.
During the process of adjusting a kit it has been saved by me. It has been saved with my DrumIt-MIDI-map. Now I know that this has been the mistake.
Today I did everything I already did before but without saving with my MIDI-map and it worked just perfect.
No error messages, no missing sounds. I was able to produce nice sounding kits and they do not need to much space on my 4GB-card.

Thank you so much for your excellence und of course for your offer to help me online!

You really rock!
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: tower of p on March 05, 2014, 08:31:33 PM
Hey Lustar,

looks GREAT, I´m looking forward to trying the new version as soon as I can make time for it...! Thanks for all the work you put in it and in the support (which is outstanding!!)!

BTW, how´s the Mac-version proceeding ? ;) (pls dont feel pushed, just asking out of interest...)

Best, rock on,
Lutz
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on March 05, 2014, 09:27:26 PM
I'm glad you got it working drum-de :)

It's good to hear from you tower of p! I'm afraid the possibility of a Mac version is still far away, for now the best way for Mac users is still to use Boot Camp or VirtualBox.



SDSE 2.0.4 (http://www.lustark.com/sdse) is available.

SDSE can now produce .dsnd that can be tuned up on the module. The new "Max tune up" setting in SDSE is similar to the one found in the DrumIt Five Editor. It can be adjusted to be able to tune the .dsnd up, from 1 to 12 semitones. This setting is disabled by default because it can degrade the sound quality, especially with settings higher than 4. When disabled it is still possible to tune down the .dsnd on the module.

What's new:
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on April 18, 2014, 04:50:28 PM
SDSE 2.0.6 (http://www.lustark.com/sdse) is available.

3 zones for your snare:
It is now possible to export a second articulation for the snare rim zone and to set a percentage after which the sound will change. To export a snare with a sidestick sound that switches to a rimshot for the harder hits, click Options/Zones and set Snare Rim to Sidestick, Rim, 85%. For better results on the 2Box snare pad hit closer to the 2Box logo to get the rimshot and further to get the sidestick sound. This option requires the Velocity Curve setting to be enabled.

The new "Minimum" settings to set a minimum amount of samples to keep when removing duplicates are set to a minimum of 10 samples by default. When "Remove duplicates" is enabled the exact duplicates are not preserved by the "Minimum" settings because those don't help to improve the playing consistency.

To upgrade from 2.0 or newer you can install the new version on top of your existing installation (your configuration won't be overwritten)

What's new:
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Pedro Fernandez on April 24, 2014, 04:42:55 AM
Hi everybody!
I know it's probably not the better topic to ask this question, but be clement for this time. :)
I had my SDSE and BFD2 installed on a bootcamp partition in my MacMini and everything runs fine.
Now I've just received a new Windows 8.1 laptop and I just installed everything but I have no audio from BFD2 in standolone mode or with Reaper. For the installation I've just copied the Audio data from an external HD (my bootcamp partition was too small to copy Audio files in the MacMini HD) to the internal SSD of the laptop. Then I've installed the "BFD2_2-3-1-6_Update.exe" from the software update page of my Fxpansion account.
Is this the correct way to do it or do I have to re-install everything (Audio files included) from my DVD copy of BFD2?
Thanks!
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on April 24, 2014, 11:09:10 AM
Hi Perico,
In BFD2 standalone, click on Options on the top left then "audio preferences". On the page that opens set the output to "all out", maybe that will work to get sound out of BFD2 on your computer. In any case you shouldn't need to reinstall the Audio files at all. You should just need the latest version of BFD2 and to set the path to your Audio data in the BFD2 Preferences. If you can't get it to work you could try installing BFD2 from the DVD (without the Audio data) then updating it to 2.3.1.6. Another thing to try is to download the latest version of the FXpansion license manager (2.0.14). Good luck!
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Pedro Fernandez on April 25, 2014, 12:47:21 AM
Hi Lustar!
I've re-installed the DVD version (2.1.0.47) and it works. If I try to install the 2 updates (2.3.0.38 and 2.3.1.6) available in Fxpansion website it does not works anymore. I really do not understand what can I do. I'm gonna send and email to Fxpansion support and see what the can do for me.
Is there a problem with latest versions of BFD2 and Windows 8.1? Is there some people using the same configuration?
I've updated the licence manager and my BFD2 licence is correct. About the audio settings everything is set correctly. I've noticed that in the version that works (2.1.0.47) in Audio Devices I have "MME:Mappeur de sons Microsoft - Output" selected. (sorry my Windows is in french). In the version 2.3.1.6 I have the "All outputs" selected.
If you had the same issue and can help that would be appreciated!
thanks!
(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y507/pedritomontreal/BFD2_2-1-0-47_zps3ab7f6b4.jpg)
(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y507/pedritomontreal/BFD2_2-3-1-6_zps8c71aa24.jpg)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Jman on April 25, 2014, 12:59:17 AM
Hi Lustar!
I've re-installed the DVD version (2.1.0.47) and it works. If I try to install the 2 updates (2.3.0.38 and 2.3.1.6) available in Fxpansion website it does not works anymore. I really do not understand what can I do. I'm gonna send and email to Fxpansion support and see what the can do for me.
Is there a problem with latest versions of BFD2 and Windows 8.1? Is there some people using the same configuration?
I've updated the licence manager and my BFD2 licence is correct. About the audio settings everything is set correctly. I've noticed that in the version that works (2.1.0.47) in Audio Devices I have "MME:Mappeur de sons Microsoft - Output" selected. (sorry my Windows is in french). In the version 2.3.1.6 I have the "All outputs" selected.
If you had the same issue and can help that would be appreciated!
thanks!
(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y507/pedritomontreal/BFD2_2-1-0-47_zps3ab7f6b4.jpg)
(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y507/pedritomontreal/BFD2_2-3-1-6_zps8c71aa24.jpg)
Maybe Lustar or someone here will be able to l help, but just FYI .... the FXpansion forum is a great place to get questions answered and help. I posted there several times when BFD3 first came out and many of us were having problems with installation, bugs, etc....
http://www.fxpansion.com/forum/index.php?&sid=7cc5cf72952fe2c71fc3cfa88d534949
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Pedro Fernandez on April 25, 2014, 02:41:34 AM
Thanks Jman! I've send a message in the BFD2 forum and the Fxpansion support. Will see!
I'll give you feedbacks.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on April 25, 2014, 07:31:01 PM
If you find the solution I could add it to the new FAQ. I've been compiling frequently asked questions about SDSE and anything related for the past year and it's now online:
SDSE FAQ / SDSE Manual / DrumIt Five FAQ (http://www.lustark.com/FAQ)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Pedro Fernandez on April 25, 2014, 08:47:46 PM
Fxpansion support answered me today (very good support) and my problem is solved. I had to install Asio4all! That been said the version 2.10 does not work but the 2.11 Beta 2 works fine!
http://www.asio4all.com/ (http://www.asio4all.com/)

Yesterday I was thinking about this ASIO topic but when I saw that BFD2 v.2.1.0.47 works and not the newer ones I thought it could be another problem! But it's really an ASIO issue.
Hope this can help other people!
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on April 25, 2014, 08:53:38 PM
I'm glad you got it working. It's interesting that ASIO was the solution (it should work without it) but at least it works. Adding it to the FAQ now :)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: vdrummer73 on May 14, 2014, 01:11:09 AM
New to 2box and SDSE and having no luck exporting sounds.  Can anyone help?  I would be most grateful.
Details below:

OS:
Windows 8.1 Pro (update 1) 64bit
Hardware:
AMD FX6300 Six-Core 3.5GHz
RAM 32GB
ASUS Xonar DG (ASIO4All Driver)
Connected via 1/8” stereo jack to:
Onboard Audio

Software:
Full Licensed BFD3 v3.01 build 1 64bit
SDSE [Modified] Reaper v4.57/x64 Eval
SDSE Evaluation Version
ASIO4ALL_2_11_Beta2
64bit Java Version 7 Update 51 build 1.7.0_51-b3 (security Medium / disabled Mixed Code Verification / No cert checks)
dsoundtool  (not yet licensed)

What is working:
BFD is able to load all instruments/kits and I am able to hear audio
Reaper is able to load the BFD3 VSTi
With just the DW Mardi Gras Bass loaded, Reaper SDSE track levels respond when the drum is evoked in BFD
dsoundtool starts and can successfully read and create dsnd files


What’s not working:
SDSE doesn’t make it passed the “starting all steps…” message.  It almost immediately plays the ding.wav file indicating that the export is complete.  A folder gets created but nothing else happens.  I have to manually terminate the process.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on May 14, 2014, 01:29:19 AM
Your setup looks perfect so it has to be a small problem. It could be that the 32-bit version of Java is installed at the same time as the 64-bit version. I'm sending you a PM to investigate the issue.

Edit:
The issue was related to the mouse configuration when using a program called "X-Mouse Button Control" to set the buttons as a lefty. SDSE can work with the left and right buttons reversed using the setting found in Control Panel/Mouse but it may not work with a program that catches mouse clicks. If anyone has the same problem when using a program to change the mouse buttons setting your mouse with the left click as the main button and the right click as the secondary button should solve it.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on June 01, 2014, 05:13:53 PM
SDSE 2.2 (http://www.lustark.com/sdse) is available.

This version adds support for EZdrummer 2 and Addictive Drums 2 as well as more snare articulations for all VSTs.

What's new:
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: drum-de on June 16, 2014, 05:20:18 PM
Dear Lustar,

I bought your program a few weeks ago und I already produced a lot of DSNDs. Congratulations!
This peace of software is just incredible. Thanks to all the new features every DSND is so much better than the ones I previously produced before without your program.

SDSE + Drumit5 is just a perfect combination. A must have.

Thanks again!

Drum-de
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on June 16, 2014, 06:28:09 PM
Hi drum-de,
Thanks a lot for your feedback, it's really appreciated! :)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Gitarcisavas on June 30, 2014, 08:14:57 AM
Lustar,

  I have purchased the SDSE this week. I was using  VST drums with a midi cable. I thought the only benefit would be having those kits ready on 2box module. But the playing experience has changed greatly. It feels much more natural.
SDSE is so fast and very organized. It's so easy to use. I export kits just to see how it will sound, even though I know I am not going to keep them.
My 2box has evolved. I love it even more now.

Thanks for this great tool.
Savas.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on July 01, 2014, 07:57:45 PM
Thanks for your feedback, I'm glad you enjoy the results!
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: fishmonkey on August 01, 2014, 11:34:13 AM
well, i just exported my first full BFD3 preset using SDSE, and wow, totally worth the effort. wish i'd done it sooner!

the results are absolutely a cut above the stock 2Box sounds. fabulous!
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Jman on August 01, 2014, 06:49:40 PM
well, i just exported my first full BFD3 preset using SDSE, and wow, totally worth the effort. wish i'd done it sooner!

the results are absolutely a cut above the stock 2Box sounds. fabulous!
Yup, load up the module with some high quality VST dsnds and the WOW factor kicks in, creating some serious respect for the 2Box drum module.

BFD3 is really impressive with a huge selection of very high quality drums and cymbals (3 zones on rides, crashes, splashes, Chinas!). Incredible studio like recording features. You can just click and export some excellent kits already preset, or tweak and change sounds to your hearts desire, almost endless. Overall my favorite single VST package.

Lustar really put in some time and effort resulting in improvements to SDSE when developing the BFD3 compatible version. There were lots of hurdles with that one. The good thing about those hurdles is the latest version of SDSE has some impressive features and improvements that are also incorporated for the other VST brand conversions. SDSE just gets better.

Congrats on the new sounds fishmonkey, and well done again Lustar!
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: fishmonkey on August 02, 2014, 10:43:42 PM
yep, it's very clear that Lustar has put a hell of a lot of work into developing SDSE, and his attention to detail really shows. he provides great support too.

although i'd much prefer an OS X version, it's obvious that there would need to be a lot more people clamouring for it to justify the amount of work that would be involved. i'm running it using Windows 7 in a virtual machine, which has the big advantage of still being able to work in OS X while SDSE is doing its thing (as SDSE takes complete control over Windows).

i'm rendering my third full preset now, and here a couple of my favourite SDSE features so far: the 2Box editor extension (since i have an extra cymbal and a DIY percussion trigger), and the option to have two different snare rim sounds automatically layered according to velocity (this means i can play a cross-stick and a rim shot, which i have been really missing).

it's also inspiring/forcing me to learn the ins and outs of BFD3, which i've never taken the time to do before...
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: mcrackins on August 25, 2014, 11:40:28 PM
Just played around with this a bit since getting it last night...Wow! just awesome software. I picked up Steve Slate 4 Platinum and loaded up the Kick, Snare, Toms from the dream kit...all I have room for until I get the USB extender...but man the sounds are killer on the 2box.

The exporting is ingenious....nicely done.

Can't wait until I can load a whole bunch of kits onto the module and play around with it some more.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: rpb1966 on August 30, 2014, 05:56:23 PM
Will there ever be a mac version at all please?.

Russ
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on August 30, 2014, 06:11:48 PM
Hi Russ, as much as I would like to please Mac users it's unlikely a Mac version will be made in the near future. The good news is that it is easy to install Windows in a virtual machine on your Mac if it has enough RAM. I'm sending you a message in case you want to try.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on September 22, 2014, 06:15:45 PM
SDSE 2.2.5 (http://www.lustark.com/sdse) is now available.

It can be installed directly on top of SDSE 2.0 or higher.

What's new:
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: J. Jesus on September 24, 2014, 06:58:15 AM
Yep,  i just sent my lunch money!  After checking out the free download.... i am addicted.

 Totally supporting Lustar.  This software rocks    :rock:
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on September 24, 2014, 10:15:44 AM
Thanks, I sent your license a few minutes ago, during lunch time ;)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: nicog on October 07, 2014, 05:15:33 PM
Does it work with Wine?
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on October 07, 2014, 05:24:51 PM
It won't work with Wine but it can run on Mac with Boot Camp (free), VirtualBox (free). Using a virtual machine has the advantage that you can keep working on your Mac while SDSE exports.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on October 15, 2014, 08:46:25 PM
SDSE 2.2.6 (http://www.lustark.com/sdse) is available.

What's new:
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: BURNIN AMBITION on October 20, 2014, 10:57:55 AM
thank you lustar for all your help and contribution to this community!!! you are a god (and a great friend)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on October 26, 2014, 07:20:52 PM
A new version of SDSE is available (http://www.lustark.com/downloads)

SDSE 2.2.7:
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: mechanevil on October 28, 2014, 10:53:14 AM
Hey, new user and first post on these great forums   :drum2:

I haven't even bought my 2Box module yet, but I came across this exciting software and was wondering what are the advantages of using it over the software for creating dsnds provided by 2Box. Can I get comparable results, or is this a much better way to create dkits with minimal hassle? I have a copy of Superior Drummer 2 and the Metal Foundry that I was thinking of porting to the 2Box. I'm not particularly keen on doing the external SD card for the moment and was wondering about file sizes... Would I be able to squeeze an entire Superior Drummer kit on to the 4GB provided by the 2Box? How many such kits would I be able to do? Are the file sizes using SDSE smaller than if I created dsnds manually?

Sorry to flood you all with so many questions, didn't think it was appropriate to create a new thread for this.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on October 28, 2014, 12:55:01 PM
Hi and welcome,

Compared to exporting from a VST manually you'll save a lot of time and avoid many pitfals. Compared to the 2Box Editor the samples will be in the correct order. You could get very good results if you did the exact same steps as SDSE but you would spend a lot of time doing so (check mapping, normalize, split correctly, check duplicates) and wouldn't have both the samples in the correct order and the same velocity curve as the 2Box Editor and no Max Tune. The whole purpose of SDSE was to export kits with minimal hassle and it evolved over the last two years with solutions and improvements to all the known issues with exporting manually (lack of memory, double samples, velocity curve, original sample order, max tune).

You will need to free 400MB to fit a SD2 kit. You would need to remove some existing .dsnd to add more. You can use DKit Manager to select different kits you don't like from thr stock kits and get a preview of how much memory it would save deleting them and the .dsnd that are unique to them.

The file sizes will be smaller than if you created them manually because it checks for duplicate samples. You can choose to remove them (by default) or keep them. You can limit the amount of samples based on the instrument type. DSound Tuner also allows to reduce the maximum sample length of existing .dsnd which can be interesting to reduce the size of cymbals and hats.

This turned out to be a mini SDSE FAQ :D
You can find more answers in the SDSE FAQ (http://www.lustark.com/FAQ) and my DrumIt Five FAQ (http://www.lustark.com/FAQ)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: mechanevil on October 28, 2014, 12:59:16 PM
Thank you, that sounds really cool and I'm sure your software will be handy when I get my module.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: docadiddle on October 31, 2014, 08:17:50 PM
Hello experts! I shall shortly have the necessary hardware to do the big sd card mod and will be purchasing the SDSE download. I don't yet own any drum VSTs but have found out that a friend of mine has got Superior Drummer. My question is, is it possible to 'acquire' the drum sound files from his program and use them? Assuming that isn't possible, do you have to buy the full VST application or can you just buy the sound files?

Thanks for any help guys.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on October 31, 2014, 09:53:30 PM
SDSE works with the full VSTs. You need the VST program to export the sound libraries it supports. So to export from a SDX like Music City with SDSE you'll need Superior Drummer 2. The advantage is that you get the same sound from the VST and all the flexibility from the VST settings. You can edit presets and export them. What is exported is what is set in the VST when you click Export in SDSE.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: docadiddle on November 01, 2014, 04:14:15 PM
SDSE works with the full VSTs. You need the VST program to export the sound libraries it supports. So to export from a SDX like Music City with SDSE you'll need Superior Drummer 2. The advantage is that you get the same sound from the VST and all the flexibility from the VST settings. You can edit presets and export them. What is exported is what is set in the VST when you click Export in SDSE.

Thanks Lustar. Now to decide which one to get. Is it fair to say that most of the VST options will give noticeable improvements over the standard 2Box acoustic sounds? Does anyone have a view on VSTs which are particularly good on hi hats?

Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on November 01, 2014, 05:59:10 PM
The 2Box sounds are good, what makes VSTs interesting is that you get a lot more choice and a lot of flexibility in how you can tweak the sound so you can find the exact sound you're looking for.

Hats are different for all VSTs (and even between different sound libraries of the same VST) so it depends on your preference. If you're looking for more articulations and samples for the hats BFD3 is one of the VSTs with the most samples per articulation and the longest samples for cymbals. If you are very particular about hats you may be interested in the acoustic conversion kits from Jman (better feel and keep all the possibilities from the module) or Gen16 hats.

There's a summary of the VSTs in the SDSE FAQ (http://www.lustark.com/FAQ). It also has a list of VSTs with 3 zones for crash cymbals (mainly BFD3, Music City, Abbey Road).
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: docadiddle on November 02, 2014, 10:13:38 AM
Thanks again Lustar. After reviewing the various options I think I'm probably going to go with EZ drummer as a starter. Could anyone who uses this tell me how much sd card capacity is needed for the full installation of the basic product for use with 2 Box?
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on November 02, 2014, 10:26:45 AM
A kit from a VST like EZdrummer is under 0.5GB, a kit from a VST with more samples is under 1GB. With the 32GB mod you should be able to fit about 60 kits from EZdrummer or 30 from a VST with more samples like SD2 or BFD3.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: hemiboy on November 03, 2014, 01:35:56 AM
I bought addictive drums 1 a while ago and never did anything with it . How much space does it take on an sd card. I will not be using the Lockett kits or a lot of the electronic stuff so I could store that on my computer to gain some room as well
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on November 03, 2014, 07:31:20 AM
It depends if you'd like several presets or only the base kits. It would take about 1.5GB to store the 3 base kits from Addictive Drums so on a 32GB card there's enough space to keep all the original content and add a lot of different presets from Addictive Drums.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: hemiboy on November 04, 2014, 12:43:31 AM
I have some superior, bfd 2 and such on on addition to my originsl factory kits already
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: ROB219 on November 19, 2014, 11:47:47 AM
Been off this forum for quite a while. Just got another 2Box module. Sold my last one. Nice to see a quick editing program.... but what is not nice is to see NIL Mac support.

MAC = MUSIC. geez....

I have to now load my copy of SD2.0 onto an inferior machine just to make DSND files. Or I go back to the old method... ugh....

Anyone serious about E -Drumming and music production... uses a Mac.

Anyway... rant over. Good to be back... now to catch up on what I have missed.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on November 19, 2014, 01:04:20 PM
Welcome back,

The good news is that if your Mac is powerful enough (recent CPU and enough free RAM) it will have no problem running Windows in a virtual machine. It's easy to install, you don't need to know much about computers.

With more than 4GB of free RAM I would recommend Win 7 or 8.1 64-bit in VirtualBox. With less, XP SP3 Lite in VirtualBox or Boot Camp.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: ANGR77 on December 20, 2014, 11:50:23 PM
Hi!

I just wanted to say that I am impressed by SDSE batch tool...I just took a journey and tested it out using AD2 and a kit which I have created here. (The Kick and the Snare was exported like a charm in the eval version of the software.)

For the kick - the DSND file was created but for the snare...some java environment memory errors showed up because of the DSoundTool...(I think that can be solved - however I got the wave files!)

I can just guess how long this process would take if not uisng the SDSE tool! Nice work there!

Note: I was running the whole process in Windows 10 Beta.

Best Regards

ANGR77
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on December 21, 2014, 01:14:50 AM
Thanks for the feedback!

This is a common problem on Windows 32-bit with Java. DSoundTool requires Java and Java is limited to about 1300MB of memory on Windows 32-bit. SDSE already minimizes the amount of memory required by DSoundTool and launches it in a way that will make it use as much RAM as possible (depending on what's available), but even then it can produce this kind of message.

If you have to use Windows 32-bit make sure to use the default (recommended) SDSE settings and try to free as much RAM as possible by closing other programs before exporting.

If you can use Windows 64-bit with more than 3GB of RAM it is unlikely that you will get this error.

If you are on Windows 64-bit and got this Java error, make sure to install the 64-bit version of Java. Uninstall all versions of Java and install the latest 64-bit version (jre-7u71-windows-x64.exe) from that link: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7-downloads-1880261.html
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: ANGR77 on December 21, 2014, 02:19:52 PM
Yes. You were right. I had the 32 bit windows version of java installed. (A bit stupid of me to not check this - I should have checked this earlier - I am running everything in 64bit)

I changed to the 64 bit and my memory error problem was gone.

However - I get an error message when trying to create the dsnd file for my snare which is that the wave file consist of 127 samples - where only 99 is allowed. Easy to change. But, I thought about reporting this back - I am guessing the AD2 batch job settings should maybe take care of this default.

Best Regards

ANGR77
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on December 21, 2014, 02:40:48 PM
It does, by default SDSE removes duplicate samples and checks that the amount of samples is not higher than 99 so it shouldn't happen at all. Make sure to keep "split" and "remove duplicates" enabled in Options/Convert. All the default settings are recommended to get the best results: 2box curve (SDSE uses the same velocity curve as the 2box editor), maximize, split (uses less memory for DSoundTool and needed to check duplicates and limit the amount of samples), remove duplicates, 16-bit (maximum in a .dsnd file). You can click "Reset" then "OK" to get back to the default configuration.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: ANGR77 on December 21, 2014, 03:03:21 PM
Works like a charm now.

I had the default values in sdse earlier but I am guessing that maximizing part went wrong because of the Java problems.

It was working just fine now! A fantastic tool... something to order for X-mas...

Best regards

Angr77
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: ANGR77 on December 29, 2014, 10:04:59 PM
Hi!

SDSE Works like a charm! I took my best kits from AD2 and produced a couple of kits. Takes about 38 minutes to produce a complete kit. The SDSE app produces a .dkit file. I can see that this file can be read in Luststarks Drumit Manager... but I have also tried to open it in drumit five editor but this will not work.

Is this the case?

Best regards

Angr77
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on December 29, 2014, 11:01:08 PM
It's normal, the 2box Editor can't open single kits directly. The .dkit files created by SDSE are single kits. Single kits can be opened on the module by pressing on the first knob and turning clockwise. It will switch from the 100 kits (DrumIt.dkit Kit Bank) to individual kits.

To open a single kit with the 2box Editor you need to open a DrumIt.dkit Kit Bank then select a kit you want to replace and click File > "Import Single Kit". If you try to open a single kit with File > "Open Kit Bank" the 2Box Editor will display an error message.

To open a single kit or a kit bank with DKit Manager you can double click on it in your file explorer, it can open both types of .dkit directly. You can also click Open or open a DrumIt.dkit then select a kit in the list and click Import. You can import or export several single kits at the same time. When importing several single kits at the same time they will replace the current kit and following kits. To build a kit with DKit Manager you can drag and drop .dsnd files from the list or from your file explorer.

Here's a tip to export faster with SDSE: you can set "Export Mode" to "Medium" in Options/General. It will export much faster but it may not get all of the samples. Depending on the VST it can be interesting because for some of them the difference will be minimal. It can also be useful when comparing different versions of the same kit, before setting it back to "per VST" (same as High for most VSTs) to export final versions of the kits you like the most.

Season's greetings!
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: ANGR77 on January 04, 2015, 07:34:47 PM
Hi!

I have converted all existing AD2 packs using the nice SDSE tool and tested them on my 2Box and it is working fine!

I had only one question. All converted packs leaves the hihat bell wave files in two flavors...open1 and closed so I am guessing that these files have not been processed and included in the DSDN files.

Is this something wrong here or is it Ok?

Angr77
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on January 04, 2015, 09:07:32 PM
It's also normal, you can safely delete ant leftover .wav files. SDSE fits as many articulations as possible for the hats and keeps the .wav files that were not used in the "SDSE Sounds" folder so that they can be used later if needed. In Options/Zones you can change the Hats Bell setting: "Yes", "No" or "prefer to Bow" to use it instead of the Bow zone when both are available.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on March 06, 2015, 08:02:43 PM
SDSE 2.3 (http://www.lustark.com/sdse) is available.

The new version adds support for VSDS-X, a great Simmons SDS-V Drum Synthesizer from Aly James Lab.

Thanks to everyone for the feedback!

main changes since 2.2.7:
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: lichtigroovt on March 11, 2015, 08:40:35 PM
Hi,

Thanks for the update!
Can you also supply support for AJLAB VLINN?

Thank you in advancce

Peter
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on March 11, 2015, 08:57:22 PM
It's a good idea, I added it to the to-do list :)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: lichtigroovt on March 14, 2015, 08:39:41 PM
Hi,
I have SDSE 2.3 and VSDSX
Unfortunately it's not possible to render kits
Message in reaper (4.77)"nothing to render"
VSDSX is ticked...
 ???
Toontrack and SSD work....
Any guesses?

Thank you in advance
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on March 14, 2015, 09:07:51 PM
The message isn't related to a VST in particular, it looks like something went wrong when selecting the regions to render. Please close Reaper and try again.

Here's how VSDS-X should look with SDSE, with the extra checkboxes:
(http://lustark.com/images/SDSE/SDSE_doc_VSDSX.jpg)
Click on the checkboxes to select the kit pieces to export (whole kit, cymbal, toms or individual pieces)


(edit)
The problem turned out to be a slightly different version of VSDS-X, the version on the website is updated to support it.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: mcrackins on March 16, 2015, 06:25:37 AM
Awesome!...thanks for the update
Title: Re: SDSE: from Superior Drummer 2 to .dsnd and .dkit in one click
Post by: norseman on May 03, 2015, 08:48:09 PM
Thanks for your comments :)

digitalDrummer: Unfortunately there won't be a Mac version. The good news is that Mac users can still use it by installing it on a Windows virtual machine. It's not as convenient but at least it should work.

Hi, I know this thread is old but what is exactly preventing you from releasing a MAC version when you mentioned this is made in Java?

Is it the setup/config process?
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on May 03, 2015, 10:58:45 PM
Hi norseman,
I can only repeat what I have said to a fellow MAC user here, (http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,1544.msg20151.html#msg20151) the good news is that it is possible to run it on Mac. I'm sending you a PM with a short guide.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on July 25, 2015, 05:58:00 PM
SDSE 2.4 (http://www.lustark.com/sdse) is available.


The new version adds support for all kits from Analogue Drums (Kontakt) as well as batch convert for wav kits.


(http://www.lustark.com/images/SDSE/SDSE_doc_AnalogueDrums.gif)
Analogue Drums kits with the SDSE add-ons to select kit pieces to export


Analogue Drums

Kontakt Player
The kits from Analogue Drums are not compatible with the free Kontakt Player. It's still possible to export with some restrictions:
- only one kit piece at a time
- the HiHat can't be exported
- Options/General: set Export Mode to "Medium".
- Options/Zones: uncheck Snare Rim, set Tom Rim to "No", set Crash Bell to "No". To export the Snare Rim, check Snare Rim and uncheck Snare Head


Batch convert from wav kits
This version can be used to batch convert wav files to dsnd even if they are already split in separate files with one sample per wav file:
- Always keep backups of your WAV files
- Copy your WAV files in the "SDSE Sounds" folder
- Optional, when building from separate WAV files (each WAV file containing a single layer):
     Sort all files in folders: "SDSE Sounds\tom1" folder with all WAV samples for tom1, "SDSE Sounds\tom1 rim" folder with all Rim samples.
- Optional: add instrument names ("SDSE Sounds\tom1 - name.wav" or "SDSE Sounds\tom1 - name\file1.wav"
- Click Convert

Note: if the folders don't contain any zone name (kick1, tom1) SDSE will ask for confirmation to convert each folder to an individual single zone dsnd


main changes since 2.3.1
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Coda on August 10, 2015, 07:24:06 AM
I am interested in sdse as a new 2box user, but as most other musicians I know, I am also a Mac user. I am also a programmer with experience in java and so im also interested to know what is the problem with releasing a Mac version if your code-base is java? Is it that you don't have access to a Mac for testing, hate Apple, or something else?
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: fankelomia on August 10, 2015, 10:45:39 AM
Awesome software!

I am using it with Win7 in a Parallels VM and (so far only) BFD3. I also have BFD3 installed on the Mac and can easily share the content thus only have to install expansions once.
I am also working on a solution where BFD3 will use the same location for self created kits and presets in Windows and OSX so i can prepare kits with BFD3 on the Mac and use the VM to export them for 2box.
Windows and OSX don't have to use the same location, it's just less clicking and searching for files...

Lustar has maybe the best support i have ever seen, wether it's regarding his own software, the VST or even the OS used!

Without SDSE i wouldn't have considered switching to 2box...
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on August 10, 2015, 11:40:08 AM
Coda: as much as I'd like to please everyone some of the tools used for SDSE are not available on Mac (I'm sending you a PM)

fankelomia: Thanks for the feedback! :)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: digitalDrummer on August 11, 2015, 08:48:33 AM
 Wow! Here's hoping Coda can help bring this over to the bright side.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Coda on August 11, 2015, 08:59:51 AM
Thanks for your encouragement, but I was told that SDSE uses libraries that are not available on the mac. I will follow up with Lustar to see if the offending libs are open-source, as I have experience building linux c/c++ programs from source on Mac. Anyway, I'm going to try drumit manager in crossover when I have more time and report back.
I just bought SDSE so I'm going to be spending the next few hours trying, buying, and exporting VSTs...
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on August 16, 2015, 10:44:23 AM
SDSE 2.4.1 (http://www.lustark.com/sdse) is available.

This version adds support for more BFD packs and linked pieces in BFD3 and BFD2 ("Link to" feature of BFD, can be used to combine several instruments of the same type into one .dsnd)

As usual, your license files will work with the new version and it's possible to update by installing directly on top of the previous version.

Thanks again to everyone for the feedback!

Main changes since 2.4:
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: atldoc on August 16, 2015, 10:58:33 AM
No....Thank you Lustar!!! You have been both a blessing and a tremendous help with your AMAZING support!

Mad love bro!

Brett

  :patbat2box:
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: tmoney on August 29, 2015, 01:19:39 PM
Ive been having an issue with my dsnd kit. Ive been getting rouge tom hits. Even when switching kits ill still get random hits. Evenutally have to just turn it off to fit. Anyone else with this issue
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on August 29, 2015, 01:25:10 PM
Does it happen with all kits exported with SDSE or also other .dsnd files? If it was exported from BFD2 make sure to disable any MIDI groove before exporting (the latest versions of SDSE disable it). I'm sending you a PM to investigate!

Edit: case hopefully closed :) The .dsnd with double hits were detected using DKit Manager and repaired with DSound Tuner by applying a maximum length. The next version of DKit Manager will have the new feature added today: Report > "Sounds All" to check all the .dsnd files (even those not used in the Kit Bank). It will also list the .dsnd with bad samples (cut samples and double hits tagged with "!check" in the report).
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on October 17, 2015, 04:29:26 PM
SDSE 2.4.2 (http://www.lustark.com/sdse) is available.

This version adds support for more sound libraries, thanks to Till and Jman.
If you have a sound library that is not listed as supported please contact me.

Shut Down after Export
It is now possible to adjust the delay, between 1 minute and 24 hours.
The shut down can be enabled or set to happen only once.
A warning message is displayed before exporting so that the shut down option can never be left enabled by mistake.

Main changes:
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Jman on October 17, 2015, 04:47:47 PM
Thanks for all your hard work Lustar! You really enhance the 2Box experience! :patbat2box:
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Coda on October 17, 2015, 04:48:22 PM
Thanks for implementing the shutdown changes! I won't get caught by this again (even though I've since moved to a VM)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on October 17, 2015, 05:02:44 PM
Thanks for the kind words :)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: digitalDrummer on October 18, 2015, 10:11:38 PM
HI Coda, any progress for those of us on the dark side (Macs!)?
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: thx9286 on October 20, 2015, 04:54:17 PM
I can´t wait for the mac version!! Any news??  ;)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on October 20, 2015, 05:53:23 PM
There are no plans in the near future unfortunately. A very good solution for now is to use a virtual machine, it's easier than it seems and has some advantages.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: ANGR77 on October 24, 2015, 01:07:36 PM
Hi Lustar!

I was just checking the AD2 ADPaks ... But I could not find support for the last pak called United POP.

I am guessing that it is not any problem to export it anyway (in fact I have done it) but the pak shows up as studio pop.

How does this work?

Best regards

Angr77
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on October 24, 2015, 01:36:00 PM
Hi,
For AD2 it's possible to export ADpaks when they are not listed but the .dsnd will have generic filenames. I will look at adding United POP in the next version.

edit: added it now
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on October 24, 2015, 03:18:35 PM
SDSE 2.4.3 (http://www.lustark.com/sdse) is available.

Main changes:
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: ANGR77 on October 24, 2015, 06:02:15 PM
Fantastic - As usual Mr Lustar - the response, support and the dedication is just top notch for SDSE!!

I had to try and make an export on my Surface 3 - i7...and 32 minutes and 21 seks...the AD2 United POP package was there! IT seeems like the 125%/150% DPI issue is gone...my system is running SDSE on 100% DPI in Windows 10!

Many thanks and have a great saturday evening!

ANGR77
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Jman on October 24, 2015, 06:04:11 PM
Fantastic - As usual Mr Lustar - the response, support and the dedication is just top notch for SDSE!!

ANGR77
I'll second that! :drum3:
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Coda on October 25, 2015, 01:08:56 PM
I have a problem, and I'm not sure if it's upgrading SDSE that caused it...

Recently I moved my SDSE system from my Mac's bootcamp, into a VM. Reinstalled kontakt, etc, and re-found the libraries. Exporting Drumica was working fine. A couple days ago, I wanted to try another preset, and after nearly 2 hours I noticed that it was done, but in the output folder was just wav files (and folders with split waves). No dsnds anywhere. I tried again and watched it. After some time (reaper had finished) I noticed under the orange glow that there was an file dialog asking where to save the dsound. SDSE had not managed to complete that action, and it was just sitting there. I CTRL-ALT-DEL, Escape, to stop SDSE and manually OK'd the file dialog, and a dsound was created (kick drum) but it's moot as the process was borked. If I then select 'Convert' to change the waves to dsnd I get the same issue. It's stopping at the first file dialog where it's supposed to save the dsound.
I have reset my SDSE preferences to default, and tried another VST and I'm getting the same issue.
Is it the latest update not playing nice on VMs or something else? Thanks.
P.S. I moved from bootcamp to a VM because I absolutely need to work on my mac and cannot have the time out while windows is doing its thing, therefore once the process is going, I switch desktops back. I'm wondering if this is causing it somehow (but it was working fine last week).
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on October 25, 2015, 01:37:19 PM
Is it Windows 10 in the VM by any chance? There was a fix for the same issue in the latest version 2.4.3. If it happened with an earlier version please try 2.4.3. I'm sending you a PM with two versions in case it doesn't work for you.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Coda on October 25, 2015, 03:30:42 PM
No, it's W7, same as my bootcamp partition. I'm not an early adopter these days, I've far too little time to do repairs :D
I'm reading through your PM and will deal with it accordingly, looks like it's Jman's fault  ;D
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on November 15, 2015, 03:51:39 PM
SDSE 2.4.4 (http://www.lustark.com/sdse) is available.

This version adds support for the Progressive Foundry SDX and makes it easier to avoid duplicate filenames on the DrumIt Five.

No more duplicate filenames
Set a kit in one of the supported VSTs and click export, you won't have to worry about duplicate filenames even when exporting alternate versions of the same kit.

On the DrumIt Five the kits don't save the path to the .dsnd instruments, they can be copied anywhere on the module memory/SD card. This is convenient to manage and sort .dsnd files but when two .dsnd filenames share the same first 31 characters the module can use the wrong file when a kit is loaded. When exporting from a VST SDSE shortens the instrument names and adds a short code for the sound library to minimize the risk of getting duplicate names and to be able to read the instrument names on the DrumIt Five screen. All the supported VSTs and sound libraries are tested to ensure that the names are short enough and that there aren't any duplicates. To avoid getting duplicate filenames when exporting alternate versions of the same kit pieces it's possible to type a few characters in the Preset field of SDSE to ensure that the set of .dsnd files have unique filenames. The new version makes it easier by picking a random 2 characters code when the Preset field is left blank. It will make it extremely unlikely to get duplicate filenames even if we forget to type a preset name. The new setting is enabled by default and can be disabled if needed in Options/General.

Example with the 14x6.5 Ludwig Black Beauty snare from Superior Drummer 2 Progressive Foundry:
14x6.5 L BBeauty_PF.dsnd (setting disabled, SDSE shortens the instrument name and appends PF for Progressive Foundry)
14x6.5 L BBeauty_PF**.dsnd (setting enabled, two random characters appended)
14x6.5 L BBeauty_PF00.dsnd (setting enabled or disabled, 00 preset name in the text field of SDSE before clicking Export)

Main changes:
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Jman on November 15, 2015, 04:50:48 PM
The new version is great, I built the entire Progressive Foundry SDX into dsnds from the default SD2 kits a couple days back. Then I decided to do another run with a preset and just have a few extra snares left to do on that build. The new feature adding the random letters at the end when naming is great. I like to have 5 toms, so if a library has less than 5 I will normally tune up or down on toms to create the extra, when doing that I would end up with 2 toms named the same unless going into the folder and changing something before building the extra toms, now I can do it all in the same session, with no additional steps needed, easy! J
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Coda on November 15, 2015, 09:27:18 PM
Great idea Lustar. Thanks for your continual dedication to improving SDSE.
Jerry, what's the Prog foundry sdx like? Do you like it, and is there something notable about it that really stands out?
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Jman on November 15, 2015, 11:12:58 PM
Great idea Lustar. Thanks for your continual dedication to improving SDSE.
Jerry, what's the Prog foundry sdx like? Do you like it, and is there something notable about it that really stands out?
I'll know more after I actually build my new card with the new kits. My previous card is full of other BFD expansions, so instead of pulling kits off that and adding this I'm going to do another card. But, I guess I was attracted to this one because of how good Metal Foundry is. So far it sounds like it will be a good one, through the headphones on the PC.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: nocturnodrummer on November 19, 2015, 08:44:43 PM
Hey Lustar, is there a chance to add a support for Vi-Elements Core kit? To my ears, it sounds amazing. I'm tired of hearing the same samples everywhere ;D I'm considering buying this one, it's 99 dollars now. I've tried the demo and had a success of converting a snare drum using SDSE since it's a KONTAKT library.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lopXwzagvZ0
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on November 19, 2015, 09:18:48 PM
Hi, I'll take a look at the demo to see if it's possible.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on December 01, 2015, 06:48:00 PM
A new version of SDSE (http://www.lustark.com/sdse) is available.

As usual, your license file will work with the new version and you can update by installing directly on top of the previous version.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Coda on December 01, 2015, 06:54:34 PM
Cool, thanks. I couldn't find a changelog, what's new?
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on December 01, 2015, 08:07:53 PM
SDSE 2.4.4d is a maintenance release, I would recommend to update if you have 2.4.4 or earlier.
Thanks to medboy and Coda for the feedback ;)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on December 19, 2015, 05:42:00 PM
SDSE 2.4.5 (http://www.lustark.com/sdse) is available.

This version adds support for the Southern Soul EZX2. Please contact me if your EZX or SDX is not supported and I will add it.

Easier export from unsupported VSTs
SDSE will select the current VST so that it can be rendered even if it's not supported.
It is now possible to export a snare with two articulations on the rim zone from unsupported VSTs.
A short help is displayed when no regions were selected.

To export semi-manually:
More details can be found in the manual http://www.lustark.com/FAQ
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Coda on December 19, 2015, 06:11:44 PM
This is great news. Thanks a lot for the further development.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on March 08, 2016, 07:13:19 PM
SDSE 2.4.6 (http://www.lustark.com/sdse) is available.

Note: the new version installs REAPER 5.16 but it is not a mandatory upgrade. SDSE 2.4.6 still works with REAPER 4.77. If you have an older REAPER license that wouldn't work with 5.16 you can skip the REAPER installation during the SDSE setup.

Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: mvdput on June 12, 2016, 10:21:32 AM
I started recently with Superior Drummer 2 and SDSE to create my own custom drumkits.
I took one of the basic presets in SD2 and exported only the Tom to see what the result looks like.

With DsoundTool I compared my exported 14 inch Tom to the 14 inch Red Sparkle Tom that you can download from the 2Box website, but I noticed that my velocity curve has a much steeper slope in the high volume than the .dsnd file from the 2Box Red Sparkle Tom.


This is the 2Box Red Sparkle Tom head:
(http://content.screencast.com/users/parcae/folders/Jing/media/b05761e7-5bf3-48a0-9e1d-aced7dc31403/00000143.png)


This is my own exported Tom:

(http://content.screencast.com/users/parcae/folders/Jing/media/68642df1-128e-4361-a449-c0e01330072b/00000144.png)


You notice the velocity drops a lot quicker in my exported Tom than in the 2Box one.


I played with several settings to try to modify the velocity curve to be more like the 2Box one, but I can;t seem to manage.
What do I need to do to recreate that same velocity curve?
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on June 12, 2016, 12:47:08 PM
In SDSE you have certainly seen the Velocity Curve setting in Options/Convert. By default it reproduces the curve from the 2box Editor (should be dynamic and similar to the 2box sounds), but the .dsnd from the stock 2box sounds don't always use the same curve as the 2box editor. It's possible to disable this option to get the same curve as DSoundTool (less steep, should be less dynamic) or to set it to VST to get the same curve as produced by the VST. The alternate settings from 1 to 3 produce a steeper curve (more dynamic at the cost of a curve that ramps up faster). There's also the distribution of samples on the curve but that depends from the contents of the VST. The sound of the samples also plays a big part.

A way to get a more positive curve (less steep) would be to keep the Velocity Curve set to 2box in the SDSE settings and set the pads to pos1 or pos2 in the Unit settings to get a curve and try it with the exported kit. If it works you would then use a different kit bank for your exported kits with the pads set to pos1. The module can load different kit banks each with their own settings so you can copy DrumIt.dkit with a different filename and place your exported kit in this new bank with Dkit Manager or the 2box Editor.

It's also possible to fine tune a .dsnd to match the curve from another .dsnd with Dsound Tuner. The two .dsnd must have the same amount of zones and samples. So to get the same curve you would export from a VST then match the .dsnd:
- edit SDSE.ini to enable Samples limit: use fixed amount=1 and adjust the limits to the exact amount of samples you'd like to use (same as your reference .dsnd files for each instrument type) Samples limit: Kick=50
- export normally with SDSE
- open DsoundTuner, go to the Match tab, open the .dsnd to be adjusted, open the reference .dsnd
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: mvdput on June 12, 2016, 03:19:10 PM
Hi Lustark,

thanks for your answer. As I am a newbie in the VST scene, I compared my own export to a few ones from 2Box and one from eNerd to see if my export was somewhere in the right direction, before doing a complete kit. I used the 14x14" GMS Coated Heads Tom from the Steven Slate Basic Rock preset in SD2.

I did see the Velocity Curve setting in Options/Convert and tried also the VST-option and modified the curve in SD2 (In the mapping section un velocity control. Am I doing that right?) to a lot less steep one and 2nd time to a very steep one but that did only make a very small difference.

The reason for this my question is that my own exported sound has less samples than ones from for example 2Box, less steps in verlocity and the volume drops very quick to a very low value. For which I think, again with my newbie knowledge of VST and exporting custom sounds, will result in less dynamic sounds on your 2Box....
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on June 12, 2016, 05:11:35 PM
It's a good way to proceed, testing first and trying settings before exporting everything. I wouldn't change the velocity settings in the VST, it would only change the way the samples are distributed on the curve. The curve that is used for the .dsnd is based on the volume, it depends on what the VST plays. It's important that the volume in the VST is not much too high (would only produce loud samples, less dynamic) or much too low (would decrease the sound quality, but only if it's very low). Most presets are usually OK so I wouldn't worry about the volume unless you notice that it's too high.

The amount of samples depends on the VST. There are some SDX packs for SD2 with more samples than Avatar, some EZX packs with less (EZX packs usually contain half the samples found in their SDX counterparts) and some VSTs with more samples (BFD2, BFD3 and the expansion packs). In my opinion the amount of samples is not as important as it may seem, as long as the samples are interesting. So for instance a .dsnd with 5 different samples could be more interesting than a .dsnd with 50 samples that all sound the same at different volumes. When there's less steps the module fills the blanks by playing the neighboring samples at different volumes.

The velocity curve is a bit counter intuitive: when the volume drops faster it means that we have to hit harder to reach the highest velocities. It's more dynamic this way, it allows to play from quiet to loud. With the opposite curve and a volume that would increase slower the difference would be smaller, everything would be loud, any moderately hard hit would always play the highest velocities. About dynamics it's also important to set up the gain of the pads with the Unit settings, set the gain so that only the hardest hits reach the highest velocities. I'm sending you a PM with more details.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: mvdput on June 13, 2016, 12:53:10 PM
Hi Lustar,

thank you for clarifying this. I was not aware that the default SDSE settings should already be sufficient for exporting sounds from VST to the 2Box module. I will export a full kit and see what is does in the module.

I wonder if the panning-setting for each channel in the VST makes a difference when doing an export? I have some presets where some channels the panning for the left channel is set all the way to the left and vice-versa for the right channel. Does this influence the exported sound and should it be set to center for both sides?
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on June 13, 2016, 06:56:27 PM
It does, when clicking Export what is set in the VST is what is exported. You can keep the default panning or adjust it to the center. It's also possible to use Options/Convert/Mono if you prefer to have .dsnd files set to the center. When using this option the .dsnd files are still stereo though (no difference in file size)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Guuz on August 29, 2016, 09:53:41 AM
Reaper 5.23 is out, still working!

Cheers!  :)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on August 29, 2016, 05:19:06 PM
Thanks for the heads up, expect a new version soon :)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on September 04, 2016, 07:17:48 PM
SDSE 2.4.7 (http://www.lustark.com/sdse) is available.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Jman on September 04, 2016, 09:01:19 PM
As always, thanks for the continued improvements and support! J
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Coda on September 05, 2016, 05:19:46 AM
Ditto what Jman says! :)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: ANGR77 on September 06, 2016, 02:58:03 AM
Nice Mr Lustark!

Best Regards

Angr77 / Zourman.com
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: JRage on September 06, 2016, 07:27:53 AM
Thank you so much!

JR
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: welshsteve on September 15, 2016, 11:25:23 PM
This is a huge thread, so I might have missed someone else asking the question (and getting the answer) I am about to.

I have a mac with windows on it as separate boot up, on that it doesn't have any music programs (Cubase, reaper etc) installed.
On the mac partition I have Logic X with Superior Drummer installed with a bunch of libraries.
I also have virtual box on Mac partition.
To use SDSE, I would need install it on the windows side, plus reaper (for example) and the windows plug in of Superior drummer for SDSE to work?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: JRage on September 16, 2016, 06:03:21 AM
Hi,

Yes, SDSE installs in Windows OS.
As for the rest, AFAIR the Reaper and DSoundTool will also be installed in SDSE installation process (or at least they are as options you can select).
And yes, you have to install in Windows Superior Drummer plugin for Reaper afterwards.

That's just how I remember, hopefully SDSE creator Lustark will explain you better  ;).
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on September 16, 2016, 11:03:52 AM
Thanks JRage,

The most convenient would be virtual box if the Mac has more than 4GB of free RAM when running. It allows to export and work on something else at the same time. It should also be possible to share the main folder for the Superior Drummer libraries between the Mac and virtual box and point to the libraries in the Superior Drummer settings. Please don't hesitate to send me a PM or email if you need any help at all!
Title: Anyone else seeing SDSE downloads as Malware?
Post by: johnnykrisma on September 16, 2016, 06:57:41 PM
I was just trying to update my SDSE but every time I download it from the site, Windows Defender warns me it's a malware trojan called Win32/Fractua.D!plock As you might imagine, I'm hesitant to double click it to install. I emailed Lustark, but does anyone else see that download as malware?
Title: Re: Anyone else seeing SDSE downloads as Malware?
Post by: Jman on September 16, 2016, 07:07:52 PM
I was just trying to update my SDSE but every time I download it from the site, Windows Defender warns me it's a malware trojan called Win32/Fractua.D!plock As you might imagine, I'm hesitant to double click it to install. I emailed Lustark, but does anyone else see that download as malware?
Windows always gives me a warning, it is not malware, just click on install anyway. At least that is my advice. J
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on September 16, 2016, 07:35:22 PM
Thanks for telling me. It's a false positive, it happens from time to time with anti virus programs. I sent them a false positive report now.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Coda on October 21, 2016, 07:07:37 AM
This is where I usually start my "This is why I use Macs" speech :)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: ANGR77 on October 21, 2016, 01:17:50 PM
Hi!

I am running W10 (64 bit) and Windows Defender but have never seen this warning when download, installing or using SDSE. I would react on this if such a message came up.



Best Regards

ANGR77
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: mvdput on October 23, 2016, 07:29:37 AM
I recently exported a few kits from SD2 with SDSE (with default setting) and I noticed that I have to turn up the volume of my 2Box module to the max to get a bit of decent sound. And it is still not how it should be.
Is it normal that the volume of custom exported kits is a lot lower than the standard stock sounds or am I doing something wrong and can I optimize some things?
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on October 23, 2016, 09:37:24 AM
When exporting the volume of the samples is already maximized in the .dsnd but depending on the mix/preset it can sound very different, if there is very little compression or if there is too much (lack of dynamics). It's possible to increase the main fader volumes in Unit but you would then need to reduce the individual volumes of your stock kits.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: mvdput on October 23, 2016, 11:58:22 AM
Thanks Lustar for your answer. I wonder how fellow 2Box users experience this and how do they solve this?
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: maczila on October 26, 2016, 04:47:16 AM
Hi.. Any update on a Mac Version for this software.. as well as the drumit manager? Looks great but unfortunately I dont have a PC to run it.. :( :patbat2box:
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: mvdput on October 26, 2016, 10:27:44 AM
I recently exported a few kits from SD2 with SDSE (with default setting) and I noticed that I have to turn up the volume of my 2Box module to the max to get a bit of decent sound. And it is still not how it should be.
Is it normal that the volume of custom exported kits is a lot lower than the standard stock sounds or am I doing something wrong and can I optimize some things?

I feel a bit like a n00b now....   ::)  because I noticed that in my 2Box Module I am able to set the initial volume levels for each pad/cymbal per kit....  In my custom exported kits from SD2 all pads/cymbals were set to 60-70% volume level. Turning the volume up resolves my issue with too low volumes...  ;D
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on October 26, 2016, 05:35:59 PM
maczila: if you have a recent Mac with enough RAM it's possible to run Windows programs with Bootcamp, Parallels or VirtualBox, it works quite well. Don't hesitate to send me a mail if you need help!

I'm glad that it's solved mvdput I was going to send you a PM to investigate :)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on November 12, 2016, 12:44:20 PM
SDSE 2.4.8 (http://www.lustark.com/sdse) is available.

As usual, it's possible to update by installing directly on top of the previous version.

Exporting from Royotoms also works with the evaluation version of SDSE.


(http://www.lustark.com/images/SDSE/SDSE_doc_royotoms.jpg)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: ddrummer68 on December 23, 2016, 02:44:38 PM
For some reason, SDSE will not call dsoundtool.  I can double click the dsoundtool.bat file, which is located in the SDSE folder.  If dsound is already running when I go to SDSE and click Convert, the process will complete for the first wav-to-dnsd conversion only.  Then, dsound quits, and SDSE waits about 3 minutes (Starting DSOUND TOOL is shown in the status bar) before giving up and calling the process complete.  I can then restart the process, by double clicking dsoundtool.bat, as above.  There are no error messages, but no activity either.  This is a fresh and licensed install of SDSE.  Has anyone seen or solved a similar issue to this?  Thanks!
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on December 23, 2016, 04:32:20 PM
The latest work in progress had a fix for a similar issue, I released it now. If it still doesn't work please send me a PM or email and we'll make it work!

SDSE 2.4.9 (http://www.lustark.com/sdse)

Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Coda on December 23, 2016, 05:27:09 PM
>Sorry, you can't repeat a karma action without waiting 1 hours.
Damn! I'll come back tomorrow, Lustar!  ;D
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: ddrummer68 on December 23, 2016, 07:55:53 PM
Thanks so much, Lustar!  The issue has been resolved with your latest version.  I really appreciate the amazing support.  Now I must buy BFD3, which is on sale for 50% off!!!
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on December 29, 2016, 06:08:09 PM
SDSE was updated with support for the Big Rock Drums EZX2 thanks to Digs (changelog updated in previous post)
Download (http://www.lustark.com/downloads)

Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: rafaelfreitas on February 09, 2017, 01:22:12 AM
Hello!  :D

I've converted the standard kit of Superior Drummer 2.0, but all my cymbals are not choking. I couldn't find any information about it here or on Lustark webpage. Does anyone know how can I activate the function choke?
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on February 09, 2017, 02:02:10 AM
Hi rafael,

DrumIt Five cymbals can be choked by holding the edge, much like an acoustic cymbal, but it uses the same samples. dsnd files don't have a separate choke zone.

It's possible to export the Mute articulation of crash cymbals from Superior Drummer 2 with this setting:
SDSE Options / Zones / Crash Bell "use mute"
The Mute sound will be assigned to the bell in the dsnd:
edge and bow: edge zone
bell: choke zone
hold the edge for the normal choke

In a way it's a faster way to get the choke sound, a LazyChoke(TM) :)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: DeraldPrice on February 14, 2017, 02:39:14 PM
Hi Lustar,

I love SDSE. It'd one of the best time savings apps I have come across.

I have one suggestion that would be a huge help in my workflow. I often find myself exporting the same instrument for different kits (most often the snare). But for each kit the sound I am going for can be very different. The net result is that I will end up with a bunch of snares named something like 14x5 Brass_218. This can be pretty hard to keep track of as the numbering system is kind of abstract.

My thought is that I would like to be able to name a kit at export and have all the generated dsnds sent to a directory of the same name. I find myself doing this by hand after each export to keep things organized in a way that is easy to remember and to find on the module if needed.

Thanks.

Derald
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on February 14, 2017, 11:09:15 PM
Hi Derald, I'm glad that you like the program!

It's possible to give a short name to the exported kit by typing up to 4 characters in the text field of SDSE between the dkit and Options buttons. For instance when exporting a snare from Superior Drummer 2 New York Avatar:
14x6.5 L BBeauty_NY2B.dsnd
By default SDSE adds 2 random characters to label each version that's exported and to avoid duplicate filenames, in this case 2B.

If we type a preset name like Rock or Dry1, Dry2 before clicking Export:
14x6.5 L BBeauty_NYRock.dsnd
14x6.5 L BBeauty_NYDry1.dsnd
14x6.5 L BBeauty_NYDry2.dsnd

By default the .dsnd are sorted by instrument and sound library so that alternate versions of the same piece can be found in the same folder. With folders like "Snare", "SnareSD2MC", "SnareSD2NY" it's possible to turn the dial to try all available snares.

It wasn't possible to sort by kit so I added it in the latest work in progress. It will be in Convert > sort .dsnd in folders: "lib + preset" or "preset". I'm sending you a mail if you'd like to try it.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: DeraldPrice on February 14, 2017, 11:50:50 PM
Thanks for the explanation. I would be happy to help test the beta version. I have been beta testing a major release at work for weeks now so I am in that mode. :)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on March 01, 2017, 07:52:16 PM
SDSE 2.5.0 (http://www.lustark.com/sdse) is available.

This version adds module profiles, support for 4K and high DPI screens and support for all the current sound libraries from Addictive Drums, Analogue Drums, FXpansion and Toontrack.

Thanks to everyone who tested, helped and provided feedback and suggestions, Jman, sn47som, Tony, Johannes, Digs, DeraldPrice, crosstix73, Angelo.


Drum Module Profiles
Presets with recommended settings for the 2box DrumIt Five, Roland TD-50, Pearl Mimic Pro and BeatBuddy.
Select your module during setup or in Options > General > Drum Module
All settings are saved in different configuration files so it's possible to set your own preferences for each module.
Click Reset to reset to the default settings for the current module.


Support for high DPI screens
It is not necessary any more to set Windows to 100% scaling


Support for the latest sound libraries
EZX2: Big Rock Drums, Dream Pop, Hip-Hop!, Progressive Rock, Post-Rock, Seventies Rock and Traditional Country - thanks to Johannes and Digs
Modern Soul R&B and United Heavy ADpak for Addictive Drums 2.
Analogue Drums DeadBeat and Gorilla 1.82 for Kontakt - thanks to Tony
Chocolate Audio The Black Album Drums for BFD3 and Kontakt.
BFD Cocktail, Eldorado, Horsepower, Metal Snares, Sonica Kabuki & Noh Percussion and Swan Percussion.


Accessibility for Superior Drummer 2 and Addictive Drums
F9 now jumps to the next available VST
improved F11 menu for Addictive Drums with options to clear the kit or keep only certain pieces.
F10 menu for Superior Drummer 2 to access most menus and add/remove SDX and EZX libraries
F11 shortcut for Superior Drummer 2 to load and preview instruments. Select a kit piece then an instrument. Select Preview to preview all instruments. Press CTRL + F11 to preview the current piece.
When Jaws screen reader is running SDSE will use it for all status messages ("checking reaper", "starting export job")
Jaws screen reader doesn't read the main menus from Superior Drummer 2 so SDSE uses the voice from Jaws to read them.

Other changes
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Jman on March 01, 2017, 09:24:45 PM
Excellent, You Da Man!
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: JRage on March 02, 2017, 07:31:27 AM
Thanks, Lustar!
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: ANGR77 on March 02, 2017, 04:25:20 PM
This DPI Scaling Stuff seems to work great! (On newer Microsoft Surface Pro 4 systems with extremely high resolutions) Had always problems before...now it is gone!!

Great work Denis!!

Best Regards

Anders
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: newmod on March 10, 2017, 02:37:23 PM
Is it possible to take a couple of China sounds out of 2box and add them to Logic library? So when I midi my 2box, I have a China Cymbal. For some reason Logic Pro drum kit designer don't have a China Cymbal.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on March 10, 2017, 06:32:52 PM
It's possible to extract the .wav samples from a .dsnd with DSoundTool.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: newmod on March 11, 2017, 03:03:23 AM
Lustar, Can you explain this in more detail. Forgive me, I am new to the midi side of things.
I am just trying to figure out how to get a china sound on my Logic Pro with I am hooked up midi.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on March 11, 2017, 12:32:25 PM
I'm not familiar with Logic Pro but if it can load .wav samples it should be possible. To extract samples with DSoundTool: open your .dsnd with File > Open then extract with File > Split. Another way would be to trigger a drum VST like Addictive Drums 2, BFD3, Superior Drummer 2, there are many packs with china cymbals. SDSE is meant to do the opposite though, using all these VST sounds directly on your 2box!
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: redbull26 on April 06, 2017, 08:24:24 PM
Hey Lustar - fellow programmer here, and I just wanted to thank you for the awesome software, it works great!  I bought SD2 and the Progressive Foundry SDX on sale recently, and with your tool I was ripping .dsnd files in no time. 

This forum is certainly rich with information - and although I'm late to the party (purchased my 2Box a few weeks ago), I'm glad so many of the key contributors here are still going strong.  All of this stuff is new to me, but it seems that in the 6-ish years that this module has existed - it has aged extremely well.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on April 06, 2017, 08:42:11 PM
Thanks for the feedback redbull26, and welcome to the 2box party!
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Coda on April 07, 2017, 06:27:12 AM
...and although I'm late to the party (purchased my 2Box a few weeks ago), I'm glad so many of the key contributors here are still going strong.  All of this stuff is new to me, but it seems that in the 6-ish years that this module has existed - it has aged extremely well.
It's ok, the party is still going ;D
It seems the only thing that can replace a 2box module, is another 2box module. There is no competition to speak of.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: edcito on April 07, 2017, 08:29:54 AM
Hi Lustar,
the windows 10 creators update is already making their way to millions of 2box users right now, ahem ahem, any quirks or bugs? I'm installing it right now but I won't have time to test it until next week :-)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on April 07, 2017, 09:03:08 PM
Hi edcito,
It should work nicely with Windows 10 Creators Update. I installed it tonight and didn't notice anything in particular, it exported as usual. Please tell me if you notice anything!
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Jman on April 08, 2017, 02:06:04 AM
Hi Lustar,
the windows 10 creators update is already making their way to millions of 2box users right now, ahem ahem, any quirks or bugs? I'm installing it right now but I won't have time to test it until next week :-)
I haven't tried SDSE with it yet, but thanks edcito. I didn't know about the Windows 10 Creators update before I read your post. So I did the update today .....  :)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Coda on April 08, 2017, 04:10:23 AM
I also didn't know about this 'creators update'. I'll have to google it.

I just made another VM for SDSE+BFD3 (W10 this time) and as is my routine it has all automatic updates turned off. Too many times in the past I've had what was supposedly a small and simple update right before I needed to do some work, and BAM!   >:(

MAC OS X all the way now! (Except for SDSE  :D)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Jman on April 08, 2017, 05:52:33 AM
I also didn't know about this 'creators update'. I'll have to google it.

I just made another VM for SDSE+BFD3 (W10 this time) and as is my routine it has all automatic updates turned off. Too many times in the past I've had what was supposedly a small and simple update right before I needed to do some work, and BAM!   >:(

MAC OS X all the way now! (Except for SDSE  :D)
Yeah, the Windows creators update is not small or fast ....... I was using my tablet while my PC did the update and wasn't watching real close, but it took at least an hour.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Coda on April 08, 2017, 06:19:00 AM
I spoke too soon.

Was having a few issues with BFD and decided to restart the pooter. Noticed there was the usual shutdown and restart options, plus 'update and shutdown' and 'update and restart'. I did not click those and clicked only "restart".

Windows has just started to install updates anyway.  >:(

I think I have forgotten to set "Metered connection" on my network adapter to prevent updates. Luckily this is a VM and I can roll it back if necessary, but it really grinds my gears...
 
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: edcito on April 10, 2017, 07:33:01 PM
Well, I've exported a couple of kits today and it worked fine, I had only a couple of issues with cubase registration because it saw it as a change of hardware but nothing wrong with SDSE.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on May 02, 2017, 08:57:26 PM
SDSE 2.5.1 (http://www.lustark.com/sdse) is available.

Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Randall D on July 05, 2017, 11:45:01 AM
I get a trojan virus warning when trying to download SDSE to my Windows 10 PC.  Proceed anyway?
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on July 05, 2017, 12:24:59 PM
Yes, it's a false positive for sure. Here's the link on virus total: virus total (https://www.virustotal.com/fr/file/c845b05c2f9b1b6d7bfe567facf6122e26d54ad192713a1fa3c0aae3ba3f5d69/analysis/1499257165/)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: edcito on September 13, 2017, 04:40:23 PM
Now that Superior Drummer 3 is out I guess Lustar will be very busy for the next couple of months?
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on September 13, 2017, 04:49:16 PM
I'm working on it right now ;)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: edcito on September 13, 2017, 04:51:39 PM
I'm working on it right now ;)

Awesome, I knew it!  :)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: espen on September 15, 2017, 11:05:23 AM
I'm working on it right now ;)

Any estimate on this available? Weeks or months?
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on September 15, 2017, 05:05:36 PM
In about two weeks, maybe sooner.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: edcito on September 23, 2017, 10:12:25 AM
On another topic, could you implement functionality fot the Alesis strike pro size limit of 200MB per Kit? I'm considering this since the drumit3 appears to be similarly delayed like the drumit5 was....
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on September 23, 2017, 06:02:42 PM
Sure, if you get the Alesis Strike Pro and find good settings it could be added as a preset.
There are presets for the 2box and Roland TD-50 but it can also work for other modules when using the Generic preset as a starting point in Options>General>Drum Module. Someone exported kits for the Yamaha DTX-Multi 12 recently. It should fit under 200MB by checking 16-bit in Options>Render then adjusting the maximum samples limit in Option>Samples. It would need to be something like 5 for everything, 10 for toms and closed hats, more for the snare. Checking Mono in Options>Render would allow to use more samples.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: welshsteve on September 27, 2017, 10:24:50 PM
On another topic, could you implement functionality fot the Alesis strike pro size limit of 200MB per Kit? I'm considering this since the drumit3 appears to be similarly delayed like the drumit5 was....

No dude!! You gotta wait for the D3.... I am! Of course you do what you chose, I am only joking. But I personally feel sad at every single loss of sale of the D3 because of delays of release especially in these tougher times for the small guy in the face of the giants of the game.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: edcito on October 05, 2017, 08:21:16 PM
In about two weeks, maybe sooner.

So, almost 3 weeks have elapsed, any update?
btw, you should charge for the version supporting sd3, i'd gladly pay for it, it's a lot of work and you deserve it, of course one would upgrade only if one has already sd3.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on October 05, 2017, 08:44:02 PM
It's being tested at the moment, it's coming :)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on October 14, 2017, 07:33:04 PM
SDSE 2.6 (http://www.lustark.com/sdse) is available.

This version adds support for Superior Drummer 3 and profiles for the Alesis Strike and Yamaha DTX-Multi 12.

Superior Drummer 3:
If you also trigger SD3 through MIDI make sure to set the MIDI mapping to Default before exporting (in SD3 > Settings > MIDI In/E-Drums)
To export cymbals with different bow and bell articulations enable the articulations with the "All articulations" menu in SD3 and set the Crash Bow/Bell or Ride Bow/Bell in SDSE in Options > Zones.
To export the Kick Hit disable the Open articulation in "All articulations".
"Add Instrument" is not supported but replacing kit pieces with different instruments from other SDX/EZX packs should work.

Main changes:
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: steph_leto on October 15, 2017, 03:48:38 PM
Hello Lustar

I'm a new edrum user and your program seems to be really interesting !

By the way, i'm trying to download SDSE but my AV detect a Trojan in the file...
Is it normal ?

Trojan:Win32/Fuerboos.C!cl in file sdse-install.exe
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on October 15, 2017, 05:01:23 PM
Hi, don't worry the warning is a false positive, here's the link to check it with 66 AV programs on virustotal: virustotal (https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/a19d7f93a127c1856979900ae6fc6aced02d2e09b18fec0f468229e073b3f930)
It tends to happen more on new files and I updated SDSE today with last minute fixes.

Please don't hesitate to send me a mail or PM if you have questions about SDSE!
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: makoki on November 09, 2017, 10:35:24 PM
Hi Dennis, got a problem today testing SDSE and SD3. It seems something is wrong with SDSE, as imposible to render a single snare. The issue seems to be related with a "sizing" issue. SDSE startrs properly, but when it says "scalling" I see the mouse to go for "detach"..after that it is clear the mouse pointer is moving most probably with wrong scale; at the end I see the "Toontrack Web Site" (most probably becuse this erratic movement of the pointer end in a help key or similar.

SDSE informs it cannot retrive drums information, etc...I have reinstalled everything several times, with no success..

The surprising thing is that some few days ago it works perfectly.

Any comment?
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on November 09, 2017, 11:12:28 PM
Hi and thanks for the feedback. SD3 resizes its window depending on the available space so it would explain that it stopped working suddenly. The good news is that I was going to upload a new version with fixes for SD3 and for this particular issue. Please tell me if it still happens with the new version.

SDSE 2.6.1 (http://www.lustark.com/sdse)

Changes since 2.6, with thanks to Chaser, Hendrick, Markus, Mark and Jman:
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: makoki on November 09, 2017, 11:37:15 PM
Hi, tested, but unfortubately does not work. My resolution is 1920x 1024, so I do not think that's the issue. Tested with BFD and it works like a charm.

No need to hurry up..
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on November 10, 2017, 09:36:29 PM
I prepared a possible fix and sent you a PM with the new version.

If anyone has the same issue mentioned by makoki or any trouble when exporting from SD3 please tell me!

Edit: the matter is apparently resolved with the latest version :)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: 96max5sp on December 11, 2017, 09:06:19 PM
I had a question about GetGood Drums compatibility as i didn't see it listed on the website but its mentioned on the previous page in this thread. I am not too familiar with it but is it compatible with Reaper and I can use SDSE just as easily as any other VST or is there a special setup for this?
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on December 11, 2017, 09:33:42 PM
It works with Reaper but requires Kontakt (even the free version) so you would need to install it first. Then to export it works the same as other Kontakt libraries like DrumMic'A, SDSE will display check boxes to select the pieces that you'd like to export: open SDSE and Reaper, Select Kontakt in the list, load GetGood Drums Halpern v2 in Kontakt, adjust the sound, select the pieces with the check boxes, click Export.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: 96max5sp on December 11, 2017, 10:45:25 PM
Ok, great, sounds easy enough and i did use DrumMic'a in the past just  can't remember how it worked  :P
Thanks!
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Murgen on January 25, 2018, 12:31:36 PM
I ordered a new PC. It will have a SSD to be sued for the 2Box files. Hopefully I will have time to setup a new Lustar installation to create a new 2Box library of my BFD2 and BFD3 VST's. Still using the card I burned back in 2012 ... time flies when you have fun.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on January 25, 2018, 08:09:52 PM
Glad to hear that Murgen, I hope you'll like the changes!

SDSE 2.6.2 is available (http://www.lustark.com/downloads)

This version adds support for the free MT Power Drum Kit 2 VST.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: danecraze on January 29, 2018, 12:39:20 AM
I am liking sdse. Still working things out a bit. Using it to create samples from SD2 to be used in Alesis Strike Pro module.
The strike editor has an auto-map feature but it recommended to not normalize the tracks before importing to the module. So should I disable the Normalize Volume setting?
Thanks
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on January 29, 2018, 01:05:30 AM
Thanks for the feedback. It should be safe to keep it enabled because the volume change is applied equally to all samples (for each articulation and it keeps the volume difference between the articulations of the same instrument), so it couldn't mess the order of the samples (it can't risk changing the perceived loudness of some samples). It produces the same result as increasing the volume of individual pieces in the VST before exporting.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Noakser on February 05, 2018, 11:39:33 AM
Hi, when creating wavs from SD2 for use on my TM-2, the files are coming out with like 20 secs of silence before the sound kicks in, what am I doing wrong when creating the wavs? I don't have any issue when creating dsnd files for my 2Box, they play great  :patbat2box:
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on February 05, 2018, 05:32:00 PM
Hi, make sure to enable "split in multiple files" in SDSE > Options > Render. It should produce a folder for each articulation with individual wav samples. When this setting is disabled it produces bigger .wav files that contain all the samples for one articulation. In these files there's a little bit of silence before the first hit and the files are much bigger so it would explain the delay.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on February 28, 2018, 07:03:01 PM
A new version of SDSE is available (http://www.lustark.com/downloads)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Walse on March 19, 2018, 12:19:16 AM
Hi Lustar.

I have buyed a SDSE license. There are plans afoot to release a version compatible with the new characteristics of Drumit 3 module?
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on March 19, 2018, 12:52:16 AM
Hi Walse,
The current version can already be used for the DrumIt Three and exporting to 3 zone snare .dsnd will be added in a future version. If you have a 3 zone snare pad it's possible to set Options > Zones > snare articulation: sidestick to export a snare to a regular snare .dsnd with rim + a separate .dsnd for the sidestick.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: edcito on March 19, 2018, 10:49:00 AM
Hi Walse,
The current version can already be used for the DrumIt Three and exporting to 3 zone snare .dsnd will be added in a future version. If you have a 3 zone snare pad it's possible to set Options > Zones > snare articulation: sidestick to export a snare to a regular snare .dsnd with rim + a separate .dsnd for the sidestick.
I converted the SD3 snares for my drumit 3 using the SDSE options rim-sidestick 80% and it works like a charm. As for the internal snares I haven't tried the 3 zone using a roland pad with switching velocity.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Walse on March 19, 2018, 11:15:22 AM
Hi Walse,
The current version can already be used for the DrumIt Three and exporting to 3 zone snare .dsnd will be added in a future version. If you have a 3 zone snare pad it's possible to set Options > Zones > snare articulation: sidestick to export a snare to a regular snare .dsnd with rim + a separate .dsnd for the sidestick.

Yes, that I already know.

With a compatible version I referred to get 3 zone snares automatically. Until this moment I am first rendering to get the 3 zones wave files from snare, and using 2box editor to create a 3 zones snare. Subsequently I am using SDSE to convert the rest of elements from wave files remaining. My question is about if they are plans to release a new version that automates the process.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Walse on March 19, 2018, 11:19:20 AM
I converted the SD3 snares for my drumit 3 using the SDSE options rim-sidestick 80% and it works like a charm. As for the internal snares I haven't tried the 3 zone using a roland pad with switching velocity.

Yes. This is an option, but I own a Yamaha 3 zones snare and I would like to use it without any such limitation.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: edcito on March 19, 2018, 11:44:10 AM
Yes. This is an option, but I own a Yamaha 3 zones snare and I would like to use it without any such limitation.
Ah ok, then you have to wait until lustar gets a drumit 3. Do you have one already? How is the reponse with the 3-zone yamaha pad?
I just made a short video demoing the SD3 Ludwig Black Beauty 20s Snare using the 3 Zone method mentioned above. It sounds great.
https://youtu.be/wMIsQ5zjrzY
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: edcito on March 19, 2018, 12:34:55 PM
Hi Walse,
The current version can already be used for the DrumIt Three and exporting to 3 zone snare .dsnd will be added in a future version. If you have a 3 zone snare pad it's possible to set Options > Zones > snare articulation: sidestick to export a snare to a regular snare .dsnd with rim + a separate .dsnd for the sidestick.

Hopefully you get a drumit 3 to test it with your software, there's some nice improvements over the drumit 5, the main one regarding the headphones out, may be you could optimize the dsnds more :-)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on March 19, 2018, 09:30:18 PM
I'm glad that the velocity switch option is useful edcito!

Walse, I sent you a PM with a version to test exporting 3 zone snares :)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: ANGR77 on March 19, 2018, 10:03:24 PM
Great to see Lustark!

Looking forward tfor this version to get released!

The 3 zone snare stuff is cool...!

Best regards

Anders / Zourman.com

Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: edcito on March 20, 2018, 03:18:12 PM
I'm glad that the velocity switch option is useful edcito!

Yeah works great with SD3, just to compare, I just exported the snares from SD2 Avatar, all 7 of them add up to 105 MB, and the result is not as good as the snares from SD3 (26 Snares, 1,32GB) so yeah, I consider now SD2 obsolete and I wont ever use it again...
those who haven't upgraded to SD3 don't know what they are missing :-)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Walse on March 21, 2018, 07:57:59 AM
Hopefully you get a drumit 3 to test it with your software, there's some nice improvements over the drumit 5, the main one regarding the headphones out, may be you could optimize the dsnds more :-)

I received my Drumit Three on last night. My Yamaha XP120 snare works wonderfully. 3 zones are detected perfectly. Lustar send my a new beta SDSE version for getting 3 zone snares from vst, and I own now many high quality 3 zone snares.

I love Drumit Three :)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on March 30, 2018, 05:25:34 PM
New version of SDSE (http://www.lustark.com/downloads)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: ANGR77 on March 30, 2018, 10:33:57 PM
Just downloaded...looks and works great!

Big thanks Denis!

Best regards

Anders / www.zourman.com
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on July 22, 2018, 10:10:48 AM
A new version of SDSE is available (http://www.lustark.com/downloads)

This version adds support for GetGoodDrums Modern & Massive Drums (with Halpern mapping)

New settings profile for the Roland TD-17 (similar WAV samples capabilities as the Roland TD-50 with less memory)

Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on August 10, 2018, 05:13:34 PM
A new version of SDSE is available (http://www.lustark.com/downloads)
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on October 19, 2018, 05:12:38 PM
A new version of SDSE is available (http://www.lustark.com/downloads)

This version adds support for Kontakt 6.
To use Kontakt 5 you can add it to the project like this (or send me a message and I'll send you the file)
- open Reaper with the SDSE project
- click Add near the bottom/left of the Docker window and add Kontakt 5 to the list
- remove Kontakt 6 from the list
- save the project as SDSE_kontakt5.rpp

Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: MatthiasFrommann on November 12, 2018, 07:56:01 AM
Hey, are you working on SSD5?

Thanks, Matthias
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on November 12, 2018, 11:19:42 AM
Hi Matthias, it's coming very soon!
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on November 14, 2018, 07:29:07 PM
A new version of SDSE is available (http://www.lustark.com/downloads)

This version adds support for Steven Slate Drums 5.
It also works with SSD5 Free (https://ssd5-free.dl.drumclassroom.net) which is a fully functional demo that contains a full kit.

Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: synnc on November 19, 2018, 11:21:12 AM
Any chance to support perfect drums in the future?

Thanks
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on November 19, 2018, 12:01:09 PM
There's a chance if more people request it but the good news is that you can already export from it semi-manually by setting the mapping to Superior Drummer in Perfect Drums. It's possible to export this way from any drum VST even if it's not supported, it's described in the SDSE manual in "Exporting from unsupported VSTs" here (https://www.lustark.com/faq?catid=3). I'll send you a message with more details.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: synnc on December 02, 2018, 07:22:02 PM
I have a problem exporting toms from addictive drums 2, snares and kicks work great, but toms give me a blank sound.
Am i doing something wrong?
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on December 02, 2018, 08:48:34 PM
For addictive drums 2 the mapping is saved with the reaper project so it's important not to change it (and to avoid saving the project when closing reaper). I would close reaper and run the SDSE installer again to make sure the project wasn't modified, it should fix it. I'll send you the map file just in case. Please tell me if it didn't work.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on January 11, 2019, 10:31:33 PM
A new version of SDSE is available (http://www.lustark.com/downloads)


Accessibility keys:
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on January 31, 2019, 07:36:44 PM
A new version of SDSE is available (http://www.lustark.com/downloads)

Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Noakser on April 12, 2019, 11:45:06 PM
Hi, getting an error "Couldn't read SD3 kit information" when trying to export a kit from The Metal Foundry. Any advice would be appreciated.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on April 13, 2019, 12:29:48 AM
Hi, it can happen if SDSE couldn't find the path to Metal Foundry or access its files. It's possible that some entries are missing in Windows, in that case running the Metal Foundry installer or removing/adding it in the SD3 settings should make it work. I'll send you a mail with details to fix this.

Make sure to install the latest version of SDSE (https://www.lustark.com/downloads) in case you currently have an old version or if the kit you're exporting from Metal Foundry is built from pieces loaded from other SDX packs.
Title: Re: SDSE: export drum VSTs to .wav, .dsnd and .dkit in 1-click
Post by: Lustar on April 20, 2019, 05:05:42 PM
SDSE 2.8.0 is available: download (https://www.lustark.com/downloads)