Double triggering / ghosting on the snare

[alainV]

I don't have problems of double triggering ... strange
I have set the mesh really tight, let the original threshold
but I have completely changed the rim settings.

The hihat word now almost good.. (depends also of the choosen sound) but sometimes it appears to be open while its close
(I have a yamaha hihat pedal).

[Orange]

Hi Manfred,

the key is to change the triggertype in the brain-settings to pad 10 or even AcTr3.
Just try different variations of settings, and also gain and threshold.
I had double-triggers as well with factory-settings, but now they are completely gone, and the sensitivitiy is superb. (from the lightest stroke to very loud)
(without changing the mesh head or the tightening of the head)

[edtc]

hello from france ....

I agree with Manfred , dampening a mesh head helps a lot for accurate triggering ...

Dampening the mesh head from the inside (with some foam ring like a REMO muffle http://www.remo.com/portal/products/2/599/607/dh_muffl_ring.html or something DIY ) prevents the skin to vibrate creating some "sustain"
... the piezo ,who acts a bit like a microphone , picks that sustain , and this "long" signal causes double or triple triggering ...
IMO, dampening the skin , combined with a precise GAIN setting is a good way to go...
So allways try to "feed" the pads input with the best possible signal ( CLEAN GAIN AND MUFFLED RESONNANCE ), it will help the brain to detect precisely ...
this way you can lower the threshold quite a lot ...

I dont own a whole 2box kit , but only the module , as a snare drum ,i use a 12" pearl tom with a DDRUM snare trigger and a DDT mesh head
...that works quite well exept for the rim , i think it is a weekness of any  drum trigger on acoustic drum , as the rim piezo and the skin piezzo are mounted on the same shell and are not enough insulated from each other...if you have tricks to share on this ...

I wish you all a happy new year , with a new and working module editor , and a new and more tweekable OS , with presets for other brands hihats , cymbals , and drum pads for example

... and for me a new SD card ... i ve got a bad one but still enjoy this great module!!!)

[puttenvr]

2Box pads already have foam inside so I don't see the need and room to add another Remo Muffle

[roel]

2Box pads already have foam inside so I don't see the need and room to add another Remo Muffle

That's right so why we wanna do that...

[edtc]

sorry , but as i said , i do not own 2box pads ... if there is foam inside it s great

[Manfred]

Those who don't have problems with multiple triggers might not see the need to do something. But there are some kits where the problems can not be fixed by simple trigger settings. Damping with foam is not the best solution since it reduces the playable area at the pad. Changing the head to a 2-ply type is better in my opinion. Since i changed to a drumtec design meshhead i don't have problems anymore. With the new head i can even set the threshold to -48 and there are no problems.

Manfred

[Baby Samus]

Hi guys,  in my experience whatever pad the snare is set to needs to have the head set tighter than the others, as you would on a normal kit.  The only time my snare double triggers is when the head has slackened off, so make sure none of you have the snare head too slack.  +1 to what putt says, there is already a large foam ring support in each pad, so you really should not need to add more.

AlainV seems to agree on this too, he hasn't changed any settings and just made sure the head was tight enough and again, no double triggers.

I think anyone having these issues should double check how tight the snare mesh head is before sticking on bits of foam and cloth and whatever else - try threshold 40, gain 0, curve normal, then tighten the snare head until the double triggers stop.  My snare head is tightened almost as tight as a normal snare batter head would be - but I think this is how it should be set, as your snare reponse has to be lightening quick - the slacker the head the less responsive it will be, hence the poor triggering.

None of you  should need to add anything to your kit to make it work - it should just work, and if it doesn't get the parts replaced whilst you can because something is wrong.

[edtc]

Ok guys , I know now where i can stick my foam ring ...

[puttenvr]

In general it's always good to crank the mesh heads up a bit more, since their surfaces always behave more flexible (irregular) than a normal (more stiff) plastic head would do.